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Check with kingspan technical dept? Probably more expensive than flooring product if it’s for flat roofing.

Details are in Appr Doc L1A and Building Services Compliance Guide - primary circulation pipes for HW services should be insulated even if inside insulated envelope

I often see this planning requirement - sometimes asking for a general 10% improvement (allowing the use any measure to reduce CO2 emissions) and sometimes specifying that it must be achieved using 'renewables'. I would check with the Planning Dept as to what they will allow here as often heat pumps, combined heat & power and biomass are acceptable (perhaps strictly not 'renewables' however). MVHR is not classed as a 'renewable'. A heat pump should get your 10% reduction very easily!

Important to follow manufacturer instructions and BBA certs here. Some membranes can only be left exposed for a matter of weeks, maximum I've noted recently is 4 months. All state however that the roof should be tiled asap and the membrane not left exposed for any longer than necessary. In the case of Roofshield the manufacturer specifically mentions the damaging effect of wetting and subsequent freeze/thaw cycling (they reference, along with others, BBA information Bulletin No. 2 Permeable Roof Tile Underlay — Guide to Good Site Practice) As regards fire the membrane is protected from fire internally by the plasterboard ceiling and externally by the slate/tile finish so will never be involved in the development stage of a fire. They are also very thin so the heat energy will always be limited and peak very quickly. As per JSHarris they cannot be any worse than the old bitumen based products!

Normally plastic = combustible! Above details look ok and in accordance with appr doc B.

Part K 5.4 does not apply to dwellings. The clause in the Scot Regs only applies to windows 4m above external GL or internal floor level so I can only imagine this applying if there is a tall, double storey atrium, staircase or similar.

Calculation of heat losses into he ground is covered in BS EN 13370 and covers normal ground floors (solid & suspended) and basement floors and walls. Very simply for solid ground floors the U-value is dependent upon the P/A ratio and the the thickness/type of of insulation. With basement floors the depth of the the basement is also taken into account. In basement walls the heat loss is dependent upon the wall construction (including insulation), the depth of the basement but is is also linked to the basement floor P/A and insulation type & thickness. In solid floors/basement there is a correction factor for the ground type with an assumed conductivity of 1.5 W/mK for clay or silt, 2 W/mK for sand (these normally make little difference to the U-value), rising to 3.5 W/mK for rock (which can make a big difference to U-values). At face value the above wall U-value (0.16) with 2 x 70mm EPS look to be of the right order of magnitude.

@Nelliekins I often see planning conditions asking for DER 10% (seems to be their favourite number) better than TER and/or DFEE 10% better than FEE. I suppose it depends how exactly the planners have worded this condition - if it states DER/TER equivalent to Code Level 4 (or similar wording) then its probably enforceable. It does however show a complete lack of understanding of the CfSH - Code Level 4 is a world away from Code Level 6 as table below from the last version of CfSH in May 2014; Getting a 19% improvement of the DER over the TER will be tough and probably not possible with fabric (insulation, glazing, air infiltration etc) upgrades alone. You will probably need to look at high efficiency heating (heat pump?) and/or renewables such as solar PV. I suggest that you clarify the exact requirement of this conditions (perhaps post extract here) and have your SAP assessor look at it asap - it will be tough and potentially expensive this far into the build.

Is this unit electric only? If this is the case I believe the best achievable energy rating is a C as the inefficiency of burning fossil fuel must be accounted for (blame it on a quirk in the EU legislation).

Nothing wrong with the basic construction The important issue for the U-value is to get it calculated correctly with; correct timber bridging for the top & bottom chords of the easi-joist (BASF only have it at 6% and Ecotherm at 12% when it is actually 18%) correct thermal bridging for spray insulation within the joist depth (between the metal webs) correct thermal bridging for quilt (perhaps not filling the metal web void) correction for the metal webs passing through some insulation layers (the 60mm PIR under the room will mitigate this to some extent). U-value probably nearer 0.15 W/m2K rather than 0.10 W/m2K.

No problem with the condensation risk analysis - generally you have decreasing vapour resistance materials from inside to out plus the ventilated airspace so all should be OK. As you have a cold roof there should be a vapour control layer on the warm side of the insulation, this will increase the margin for safety in the assessments. However both sets of U-values do not include any correction for the thermal bridge created by the metal webs passing through the insulation layers. I've had a look at the easi-joist brochure (https://www.wolfsystem.co.uk/products/easi-joist.aspx - see page 39 of technical guide) which shows U-values including the effect of the metal webs and they add about 0.08 W/m2K to the basic U-value (higher than my guess of 0.03-0.05 above). Also the Ecotherm calculation has the chord width as 47mm when it should be 72mm for easi-joist and this increases the bridging from 12% to 18%! Ecotherm calculation also does not correctly address spray foam between the easi-joist metal webs

Thanks for that. Yes the 'breathability' of the breather membrane is swamped by the materials internal/external to it so it becomes irrelevant. Just one warning the U-value does not include any correction for the metal webs (see dUf = 0.000 approx 5 lines from bottom of 1st page). All this metal bridging 2 layers of insulation will impact the overall U-value though offset to a degree by the continuous layer of 60mm PIR. The correction should be included in the calculation and may add 0.03 to 0.05 (?, more?) to the calculated value of 0.09 W/m2K.

I was always told a rising butt hinge is not a self closer. Building Control & Fire Brigade would not accept them in my experience. Appr Doc B states a self closer must be able of closing the door against the resistance of the latch. In dwellings there are not many instances where a fire door needs a self closer!

The 60mm of pir under the joist will mitigate the thermal bridging to a degree. The spray foam onto the breather membrane will make it non breathable but probably not a big issue. Can you post the details provided?

The amount of thermal bridging will be considerable; Series of 'metal fixings' penetrating the insulation layer which can be included in the U-value calclation Possibly no insulation in the depth of the joist unless you risk loosing fingers pushing mineral wool in there before insulating between I'm surprised the insulation manufacturers cannot model this. Perhaps also an issue for the easijoist manufacturer to look into this in more detail.

There is no issue between EPS/XPS and RIGID PVC conduit or pipes. There is the well documented issue of pasticiser migration with FLEXIBLE PVC cable insulation. I'm sure cable needs to be derated too if ran in conduit in any insulation.

Your energy assessor looks to have the correct U-value (comparing the 125mm PUR). To get the same U-value would require twice the thickness of the insulated screed product (0.022 W/mK vs 0.043 W/mK).

What do they want the insulation testing for? Type of insulation? Correct installation? If done in late 1990s/early 2000s I doubt it will be urea formaldehyde based and I don’t think there are any health issues associated with it - mostly likely to be blown glass wool. Try contacting Cavity Insulation Guarantee Scheme ( google CIGA) they issue most guarantees for these systems and copies can be obtained. Other guarantee providers also possible so you may have to search around.

You’re welcome.

In a warm roof condensation may (will?) occur on the underside of the waterproof layer and BS 6229 gives maximum allowable winter build-up when assessing the condensation risk. The VCL should be taken up the sides of the insulation and onto the top of the insulation (or up any upstand) and sealed to the waterproof layer so that the insulation is encapsulated. See guidance from insulation or waterproofing manufacturers.

Are you looking to just meet Building Regs or looking at a much better standard. The 100mm cavity makes things difficult but can work if you only want to scrape a pass. The 2 full fill options above will be expensive (especially phenolic foam as Kingspan have a virtual monopoly on this product!). Suggest you look at the SAP assessment numbers to see what is possible. I'm not convinced with any injected insulation in new build as there is no way of telling if there are missed areas or gaps. At least with built in you can see the quality of workmanship.

EPS will initially melt away from a heat source but ultimately it will burn fiercely with plenty of black smoke typical of most petrochemical based products. Try to set fire to a sheet positioned horizontally then do the same with sheet held vertically - the latter will give a very different outcome!

There are 2 issues here; 1. Calculation of the floor U-value, as above, with little benefit from the vertical edge insulation in the calculation 2. The linear thermal bridge at the floor/wall junction (along with may others) which is an input into SAP 2012 (& 2009). Default and/or accredited psi-values are available for 'standard' details however these would penalise a 'non-standard' but well designed floor edge detail such as the JSH detail. With high levels of insulation poorly designed junctions can have a major impact on the SAP rating & Building Reg compliance.

As stated the heat loss from a ground floor depends upon the size, shape, edge conditions and soil type. Best analogy I've heard is consider a ground floor like a bowl of hot soup - it will be cooler at the edges (=greater heat loss) and warmer at the center (less heat loss). This table from BR 443 may help - larger, square floors having a lower inherent U-value. With current levels of insulation in the general floor area (>100mm PUR or equivalent) vertical edge insulation has little effect on the overall U-value but is important to minimise the linear thermal bridge at the floor/wall junction (which is where BR 497 comes into play as guidance and standard conventions when using BS EN 10211).

Sorry but PIR will not create a cavity barrier (look at Grenfell Tower!) - needs to be mineral wool.