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So far, so good with us. Well behaved little unit.

Corporate **ck-ups are normal. But - you - you're mad, ravin' batshooshoo crazy mad. Just like the other self builders on here.... ?

Please, whatever you decide, do your Due Diligence on the contractors. We are just interested - helpful, hopefully - amateurs. I hate to quote corporate slogans : do it right (Wickes). A temporary fix just puts you in a bind when the seller points the temporary fix out, and gets quotes to do the job properly, and makes an offer that reflects the cost. Meanwhile you have lost the house that you wanted to buy.... and you are crying into your pint of foaming liquid.

They can, because there's too much work....

It keeps them warm: all that hot air. Offence taken, re-manufactured, deepened, refined, spread further - followed by ; Charelottesvill , Charlie Hebdo , documented infamy. Bring back National Service - yeah for bloody Daily Mail reading pensioners.

We solved that issue with a small electric mat - £50, trickle of warmth every now and then . Very cheap, hassle-free.

Just a thought. Will you need UFH upstairs? I ask because I have read other threads where more experienced SBs have decided against - UFH upstairs might well be unnecessary ?

= I don't need the job

No. Not without ventilation or vapour barrier of some sort. Here's a link to a sensibly written explanation of the differences between warm and flat roofs. The picture isn't quite a simple as portrayed above, though. As I understand it, there are several membrane types to chose from. I'll leave discussion of that to people who know what they are talking about. Here's how we designed our bit of flat roof ( cold roof) Hope that helps a bit. Ian

The consumer unit quote is a ' ...I don't want the job... ' statement perhaps? @nod's right - there's too much work around. 20 meters of LED strip - have you bought it already? There's huge variation in the price, quality, finish and design of it, I think. If you have it in stock, the £300 appears excessive too.

Persistence. The Lancaster Co-Housing project took years to get off the ground. They provide a really useful and detailed timeline of how the project developed - somebody has put a good deal of effort into producing this resource. Just in case the page linked to doesn't load, here's the source page The key issue is finding like-minded people with whom to work. The unifying idea is ecology, and is explained here. Just a bit of luck helps.

Welcome. That's a well-worn path down which you are wondering. Though anxiety and bank balance levels decrease at almost the same rate ....?

What's putty? Never heard of it. Krickey! I've not had a good sniff of putty for many a long year. Nor linseed. Come to think of it, that might explain a few things ?

Our partitions were fitted beforehand. I think ( in my case thats dangerous ) it doesn't matter. What does matter is that the screed be given more than long enough to dry out completely. @nod will be along in a minute. He's forgotten more about screed than all of us put together know about it.

Is finance the only consideration? Because if it is, the answer is likely to be ... no... But if you take a wider perspective, then the answer may become ... yes. And thats the route we took. Yes, emotion comes into the calculation. Overall, if pay back is the only consideration, then self-building is one of the hardest possible routes to take. Unless you are already in the business.

There have been a good few posts recently about Permitted Development Rights. So, here's a link (below) to the most recent initiative for development under PD. Martin Goodhalls blog - for me at least - is as good a bible for PD rights as you can find. If you haven't read his blog, it's worth a look because he writes so well: clear, focused, authoritative. Here's the article in full.

I've never been on a yacht that did that. I really wish I had. I've sailed next to one that did: fabulous braking distance 15 knots to a dead stop in a meter or so....

At 40 feet down, it's the quickest way I know of warming up cold legs....

Both of ours run at 20 , 24 / 7. We'll switch them off in May I guess...

Is what worth it? What are you measuring? Money? Comfort? The smile on your partner's face? The non-slipiness of the dry patch? The cat's comfort? Yes, you guessed correctly: The bath mat is over an unheated area, Sid (never heard him hiss yet) is on the warm area. This is our downstairs wet room. Upstairs exactly the same arrangement Exactly right. The psychological effect of warmth in a wet room is greater there than anywhere else because most of us shower with no clothes on. It takes a day for ther floor to heat up fully: switch it on for just an hour as you suggest, and we would feel nearly no benefit. You can feel a slight temperature difference where the mat ends ( or begins) I'm willing to pay a lot more for the comfort glow that a really warm wetroom floor gives. It's not just about money.

Exactly right @AliG. Lets just do a little roll call of all those who would lead us who depend on ill - informed followers : Donald Trump Boris .... sorry Mods didn' mean it, honest ?

They know their market. Its a very instructive headline. And it has nothing to do with technical issues - nothing at all. Nobody is going to keep their house at 10 degrees (20 -10) It taps into a really rich seam of denial - climate change rubbish - just throw another log on the fire - I'll be dead before that affects us - nanny state - do gooders - Too cold? Yer need another 20Kw on top of whatcha got mate

Due Diligence. Easy forgotten because there's too much work around Gary.

Electricity, fine. Water.... they tried to get away with having only one internal supply side stop cock. And had the valve I bought not failed as soon as I fitted it, they would have succeeded. I rang the United Utilities Inspection Team ; on site, eyes rolling, and using some choice Lancastrian words, the inspector booked the job online there and then. 48 hours later, job done.

I agree. This has a wow factor - a big wow factor, followed by just as big a tooth sucking factor. Of course she loves it. And asks why we didn't think of this design earlier.. ?