ProDave

That sounds like somebody talking sense at last.

At last you are starting to "get" it. But most of the inhabitants of England have not yet "got" it. All I am saying is it is about time much more wind power was built in England. Then lets see if people are so much in favour of it?

Pictures and diagrams? Are you SURE the one with running water serves your property and is indeed foul drainage not rainwater? Do you see more water flow through when you flush a toilet for instance?

^^^ and the above describes why I am so keen to do it all myself, unless there is no choice (gas)

I think the "problem" here is you tried to tell the plumbers how to do it, rather than discussing with them, how they would do it and taking their input.

Might be best to open a new incogneto window on your browser and view Octopus's website without being logged in. Then you will see all the new customer rates.

Looking again at the picture I assume you are already having a deep worktop cut to fit into the window recess thus forming the window cill as well. So it would be easy to move the sink unit forward a bit now before that worktop gets cut.

I still would not have the taps behind the appliance. Imagine an appliance hose splits, you have to pull the appliance right out to reach the tap and stop the leak. TD on the left and WM in the middle then it's pipes can feed into the sink unit. Another thing I have done in this situation is bring the units forward and fit 650mm deep worktop.

Sorry I don't mean I am personally hoping the English and Welsh get these wind farms and pylons in the numbers we have been "given" in Scotland. What I am saying is while for so long England in particular has banned them, they have instead been built up here so the good folk of England who largely make the rules, have not seen the blot on the landscape that they are, and if the good folk of England don't see them, they obviously think they are good.

I put NO pipes or sockets behind the machine. ALL pipes lead into the adjacent cupboard where they terminate. Ditto the mains plug. You still need to be careful that the pipes don't crossover, but that is just the order you thread them through the holes into the cupboard. Your idea would only work (if they got it right) until you change the machine for a different one.

Good. When the Welsh and English see these springing up everywhere like we have, policy just may change.

I am not against renewables, done properly and fairly. But we have for the last 10 or more years, had this bizarre situation where Westminster says we must have more renewbless and quickly, and by the way on shore wind farms in England and Wales are banned. So what has happened is Scotland now has a LOT of wind farms, out of sight and mind of the people of that London. And lots of new big overhead pylons to transport that power down to England. They have the cake and eating it, benefit of renewbles without any of the issues and disadvantages. Scotland now generates more power by wind than it can possibly need. All I want is some sensible and fair policies, that should basically say Scotland is saturated with wind, we can have no more .The grid operator has effectively said they are unable to connect any wind farms that did not receive planning permission by a date earlier this year. Yet that has not translated into planning policy, there are still planning applications near me being processed, which if the grid operator is correct, may get build but not connected. So lets have some sensible policy. If England wants wind power, then it is about time England had wind farms on all the major hill ranges, just like we have in Scotland. I would start with Chilterns, Cotswolds, Downs (all of them) Mendips, Penines etc etc. All should have wind farms on them, just like most hills in Scotland already have. And there is no shortage of candidates in Wales either. I am willing to bet the English would be more vocal objecting than the soft Scots have (and any objections were ignored because it was "policy")

Ours works well as long as you open all the downstairs internal doors to let the heat out to the whole house and as above don't put much wood in at a time. Fill it full and keep the living room door shut and you will be cooking. It helps that we have double doors from the room with the stove to the hall from where heat can go up the stairwell and it nicely heats the whole house. We only have it because we have plentiful wood. I would not have one if I needed to buy wood, and if I did not have one I would be giving away or selling wood for someone else to burn.

I found an "insulated sleeve" for the purpose when I bought my flue. It is designed to clamp onto the outside of twinwall flue so must be non combustible to be able to do that, and is 50mm thick which then leaves anything that is combustible >50mm from the flue. The reality is my 5Kw stove even burning full tilt, the outside of the twin wall flue where it passes through the roof is barely warm to the touch.

I was surprised at the total collapse of the twin towers of 9/11. I would have expected the fire compromised floors might just have collapsed down leaving the largely undamaged floors above and below intact. I can only guess that when one floor collapsed, the momentum of the structure above put too much force on the floor below when it "landed" on it and so a chain of events started.