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Possibly. When the ASHP is heating the tank, the water within it will be circulating by convection and mixing. It will stop being heated when the temperature probe senses it has reached demand temperature. Is there a lower thermostat pocket? I found I got better results (more hot water) by putting the temperature probe in the lowest pocket which is about 1/3 the way up the tank.
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That's why I bought the 5 straight ones and left the bananas for someone else to fight with. I am hoping that these have been there a while (probably not a common or high demand size) so the fact they are still straight was a good sign. They were in a covered but unheated and well ventilated shed at the merchant, now they are in a dry warm house so giving them chance to acclimatise to their new surroundings. Also does painting them with woodstain and effectively sealing the surface help or hinder the chances of stopping them warping?
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Yes what should happen is hot water leaves the tank at the top and cold water goes in at the bottom. Little or no mixing happens so the "transition" just moves up the tank. Even hours later there should still be hot water at the top of the tank to draw. It is only when the hot / cold transition reaches the temperature probe, which looks to be about half way down, that the HP senses the drop in tank temperature and re heats it.
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Follow that white cable coming out of the timeguard and tell us or post a picture where it goes to.
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The rapid drop in DHW temperature concerns me. A picture of the HW tank might help.
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Re DHW heating times. We usually shower in the evening, not the morning (I can't understand why you would want to go to bed in need of a shower and not have it until the morning) So there is usually not much demand for HW in the morning, so there is plenty left in the tank for that from the day before. I have the ASHP set to turn on DHW heating at 11AM, and the logic behind that is by then the solar PV should be generating reasonably well so is a good way to self use a reasonable chunk of PV power. So for the 6AM space heating start up, the ASHP is only heating the UFH and nothing else.
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Would a bigger pump compensate for small pipes?
ProDave replied to Hogboon's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
I have an older model 5kW LG heat pump that has never missed a beat even one night last winter when it went down to -18 My LG heat pump was very particular on water flow rate. On initial install it kept tripping out with a low flow error. It was too late to change any pipework, so I fitted a second circulating pump to supplement the built in one and that increased the flow rate to satisfy the HP. If yours is not tripping with a low flow rate error, then I doubt the problem is insufficient water flow. What is the supply and return water temperatures from the heat pump when it is doing space heating? And how is the heat delivered? Radiators or UFH? The 3 bar rating of the hot water tank is the pressure of the hot and cold water that comes out of your taps nothing to do with the heating circuit that is usually a sealed system with it's own expansion vessel. -
This relates to my thread about long handrail spindles The first 2 were a success so I have bought another 5 lengths of this planed timber with a finished size of about 35 by 45mm and just over 4 metres long. Each will be cut to make two 1.8 metre spindles. I got the only 5 straight ones out of the rack at TP. I bought them home and I have laid them on the floor clamped together and weighted down. My plan is to leave them like this for some time, in a vain attempt to stop them becoming a bunch of bananas. Will this work, will it persuade them to stay straight, or will it just delay the inevitable and they will just bend like a spring when unclamped? If it is likely to work, how long should I leave them clamped like this before using them? If it won't work, anything else that might?
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A few things spring to mind. HOW is the heat delivered to the rooms by under floor heating, radiators, or a mixture. When ALL the rooms are up to temperature, can you still hear the low level hum of a water circulating pump running somewhere? You say when HW is off, you only get tepid hot water from the taps. That does not sound right. Can you post some pictures of your hot water tank and any other pumps and controls you can see? Assuming you have a hot water tank, once it is up to temperature it should stay there all day only losing a little heat through losses. What is this "boost" that you switch on before a shower, again can you post a picture?
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Bedrooms don't need as much heat, partly because they get incidental heat from the rooms below, and partly because most people want a cooler bedroom. so if putting any heating upstairs I would not put it under the proposed built in wardrobes. But it will depend on insulation levels you are proposing. That could result in anything from no heat at all needed upstairs to built in wardrobes are cold due to excessive heat loss from them through the walls and roof.
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Screwfix Drill/Impact Driver Twin Pack Bargains - DeWalt vs Makita
ProDave replied to Oxbow16's topic in Tools & Equipment
I can always spend more. The house is "complete" but it is not "finished" You could write a thesis on the difference. -
Given that the DHW is a lower temperature from an ASHP that you will be used to heating it with an immersion heater, I would use at least a 300L tank if you want to stand any chance of a tankfull heated overnight will last all day.
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Screwfix Drill/Impact Driver Twin Pack Bargains - DeWalt vs Makita
ProDave replied to Oxbow16's topic in Tools & Equipment
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Well the new cylinder will be losing heat at about 1/3 the rate of the old one. So temperature drop of the new one will be 1/3 that of the old one (if they are similar size) It's a bit of an odd question. I could understand if you were trying to heat the cylinder on say an overnight off peak cheap rate and hoping it would store enough heat to not need heating again until the next night, but assuming you are happy to use the ASHP at any time it becomes a non issue.
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Am I seeing the bottom of the (very shallow) old wall foundations there with bare earth underneath them exposed? If so you want to pull your paving slabs back a bit and first get a wall build there to retain that soil and keep it under the foundations.
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Worktop delaminating: which glue to use?
ProDave replied to ToughButterCup's topic in General Construction Issues
You don't have this issue with granite I'll get my coat. -
Worktop delaminating: which glue to use?
ProDave replied to ToughButterCup's topic in General Construction Issues
Is this the "worktop" that typically rolls over the top and down the front edge? Or the under side covering? Our dishwasher came with a roll of self adhesive aluminium tape that was supposed to be stuck to the underside of the worktop right at the front to protect it from condensation in this situation. I would suggest something like Stixall which is a waterproof adhesive pressed into the crack as best you can then the aluminium tape. -
Afraid not, that's 2 hours drive on a good day and I am not doing jobs that need me to stay over.
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No "certifier of construction" tradesmen were used on my build. I didn't see it caused BC to make more visits or inspect more carefully. I am an electrician and when the COC scheme was being introduced I attended a seminar at Highland Council headquarters. I directly asked the question at that seminar "is the scheme compulsory?" and the answer was no it is voluntary. The bribe is you get a small discount off the building warrant, but you are likely to find COC tradesmen harder to find and more expensive. Re inspections by BC, as far as I can remember, foundation trenches pre pour and at DPC, ground drainage installed and witness pressure testing. Iinspection of bare completed timber frame. Then there was a long gap with just 2 more inspections, one for a temporary habitation certificate and one for completion, where they wanted to witness another drain pressure test. I invited them to inspect the treatment plant being installed but they did not want to see that. Paperwork required for temporary habitation: Electrical certificate, Fas safe certificate, G3 UVC sign off. Additional paperwork for completion: Air test result and as built SAP and EPC
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My real world experience. I tried to avoid a vented stack through the house. I had vented the in ground drain run at both ends, but the far end was at the static caravan, and BCO would not accept that the vent stack there was a permanent feature. He would have accepted a vented stack from the ground drain up the end of the house on the outside but by this point that was concreted over so it would have been too much disruption to put that in place, so reluctantly I had to have a vented stack through the house. That little bit of boxed in space through the utility room, indeed the plasterboard of that bit is about 1 degree cooler than the other outside walls. Someone will no doubt calculate how much heat loss I am getting by a section of wall 2.4M high by 300mm wide being 1 degree cooler than it would be if the cold vent pipe was not there.
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Building Control Completion at last (and some statistics)
ProDave replied to ProDave's topic in Building Regulations
Yes I missed the VAT on the last bit, but it wasn't actually much. The windows for the sun room were included in the VAT claim as the last item so it was only about £800 or materials that missed the VAT claim. It was a mixture of congratulations and relief that at last we knew there would be no more picking over and criticising minor details of the build. My wife summed it up by saying "it feels like it is OUR house at last. -
Building Control Completion at last (and some statistics)
ProDave replied to ProDave's topic in Building Regulations
I guess the last bit of "paperwork" relating the the new build has just been completed, the dreaded Council Tax. We had been paying band A council tax for the static caravan, and since Covid the assessor has stopped his regular visit to see if we have moved in. So yesterday we had 2 notifications, one saying the caravan has been de listed, and the other saying the new house has been added to the register at Band E. Both effective from the date of the building control completion certificate. Band E sounds right to me, I have looked at all the houses I know of similar size and none are lower than Band E and some are in band F. I could not find anything comparable in band D to try and argue it lower so we will just accept that. Interesting that the valuation has been done "off plan" the valuer has not been in the new house. Last house we built it was done by inspection and physical measurement of the building. -
A problem you will hit by keep adding more panels is you will reach the G98 limit of 3.68kW Beyonf that you need G99 approval which has to be done prior to connecting the panels and may come with a network upgrade cost or you may not be allowed.
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Advice welcomed on DHW/Space Heating system
ProDave replied to catrionag's topic in General Plumbing
Our house is just slightly larger and probably in a colder place, and a 5kW ASHP runs hearing (UFH) and DHW fine without problem and very cheaply. We also have a 5kW room sealed WBS which is positioned so heat from that will heat the whole house. Like @jamieled the WBS would do our entire space heating, but I would probably struggle keeping up enough wood to feed it if I used it all the time, and it does not have a back boiler to heat the DHW Plus you need to be there to manage it. No good for when you go away and come back to a cold house. So I like the ASHP for it's "just gets on with it" automation but with the flexibility to burn some wood when we want to.
