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Little did I think when I drafted the OP....... mini surveillance devices inside bits of electronics ... Are SunAmp paying us? If not they should be

I soon lost count of how many I'd need, so 50 will be a good starting point. You sayin' I could arrange for 150 amps to go through a wire eh, pal? You over estimate me - vastly.

Thanks. Wago it is then. Ian

I'm drawn to things which compensate for my weakened hands. Bumping into Quickwire connectors for lighting circuits caught my attention, therefore. Yes, they are expensive. But, together with one of those automatic wire strippers, I stand a chance of making good, workman-like joins. It's an expense that I just have to ignore. @Onoff, @ProDave, @JSHarris, @Construction Channel, what do you think?

In haste, I'm almost sure @TerryE has solved this (or similar) problem. He details it in his blog.

I need to install a suspended (dropped, false) ceiling under a flat roof. The primary aim, is to provide a carrier for a vapour barrier and 25mm of insulation under our POSI joists. At the same time, I'd like to create a generous service gap to carry water, electricity cable, MVHR piping and I suspect there'll be a bit of data cabling too. The span to bridge is less than 2 meters. The load on top of the joists is very small : just some insulation and a waterproof membrane. I have checked with the joist manufacturers and they say that what I propose is well within the design limits, and the BCO, when told, didn't even bat an eyelid. I've read these posts; @vivienz 's : her focus was lighting - there are some good ideas here, and I think we'll incorporate them @Barney12 has a similar focus, with @Declan52 and @Ferdinand contributing ideas on how the ceiling might be suspended . Again the focus was on lighting and visual effect rather than lowering the ceiling per se. I remember part of a post (which I can't find) by @JSHarris which focused on installing an occupancy switch in the space created by the suspended ceiling by his back door. I've watched lots of YooChube videos about the subject here's a list The POSI designer sucked his teeth a bit when I talked about screwing stuff to the bottom of the joists: I explained that SWMBO had vetoed me suspending my engine hoist from the joists.... My instinct is to KISS 3 by 2 wallplates 2 by 2 cross-pieces vapour barrier batten the 25mm insulation (under the vapour barrier) to the 2 by 2 cross-pieces plasterboard skim OR Screw some sort of simple support system to the bottom chord of the POSIs I'm at the ' its keeping me awake at night stage ' Help me untangle my brain about this one please!

... while being filmed...

It isn't for me. I have 8 remaining fingers and no feeling in the outer two, each of which is curled over like I imagine Captain Hook's hook. Brilliant for propping a wine glass, or holding a pool of shower gel. Releasing things is sometimes quite difficult, and the trailing finger - when shaking hands - makes some people think I'm, as my dad would say, a left-handed bricklayer : a Freemason . The weakness in my hands is significantly reduced when using Torx and Spax screws. I (anyone) doesn't need to press so hard, because the screw draws itself into the material more readily for the same amount of pressure . Pushing hard on my little amputation makes me grizzle a bit. For me the answer to the question: "Need a hand , Ian?" is always " Naah, two fingers'll do. (Debbie doesn't ask anymore)

£ shop's cheaper. By now, I must have about 20 pairs of glasses knocking around: I buy three pairs per monthly shopping trip - oh, and one pair's just come out of the washing machine. The car has at least one pair on each seat, and when being bussed about our grandchild has taken to putting them on and declaring " Mine glessiz"

Change '... could...' above to are in my case. And here's why

The labour bill has been confirmed as £270 per person per day. @Temp , you are right: everyone oop North has too much work

This part of the summary strikes a chord with me ... Will that ever be implemented ? Even by a Labour government?

Retire this evening with a smile on your face...

Nested errors....

Impossible to impute motive ... I suspect the adverb was used accidentally. ?

Take proper professional advice from three specialist survey companies. Ask for references. Check their professional qualifications. Ask them to list membership of a relevant professional body Check the relevant standards policed by that organisation Check the currency of their Professional Indemnity Insurance .(ask to see their certificate of insurance) Network : ask other people about the company. When I did that I was surprised at the directness of some of the answers. Once that's done you have enough information to make an informed choice. And reduced your exposure to unnecessary risk. Good luck!

Thanks Terry...

I venture to suggest that every single one of us on this discussion group has had to face this problem. There's a fairly detailed thread about the matter here

Not you as well Clive!

Exactly @Cpd, which is why I have written a polite email asking for confirmation....

I have done...

Post first fix, a small 2 meter by 2 meter wetroom : labour only £6480.

See @patp, he uses his to store his spare batteries. ..... And the real reason is he can't ever see the red spot....?

Ja, vorsicht aber! Die Gurtwickler sind sehr wichtig. Elektrischer Gurtwickler sind - so zu sagen - empfindlich. Yes, but be careful. The mechanism that raises and lowers the blind is very important: the electric versions are (were when I had some) a bit 'delicate'.

Unsurprisingly I have gone down the Bosch route. Measure : GLM120C (Amazon Warehouse deal) Level: GLL3-300 with the staff and receiver. (On offer from Campbell Miller Tools). I've used the laser measure almost every day : it's far better than any other I have used. I still use a steel tape : Hultafors Talmeter 3M: superbly designed and measures internal distances far better than any other tape I have used. You will find those who argue that lasers are a waste of time: your other half might be otf that opinion too. Keep the receipts, maybe?