Nickfromwales

The instants do draw silly amounts of electric. Storing water encounters the losses associated with doing so. Double edge sword tbh. @ProDave Those instants do seem to give good flow rates, and I thought they were much more expensive than that so deffo a contender where electric supply allows. 13a supply will do 300 + litres uvc .

"Banging tune" ? Doubly dark horse you are !

Jesus! Who's is the Pv farm opposite

Update. Have spoken to both PP and BC this morning, quoting the various bits of info above from you good people, and it's quite clear that neither PP, PD nor ( amazingly ) is BC required as they're not change of use. Quoted the timescales of previous occupancy etc and use, and inherited status etc, and no resistance whatsoever. RESULT ! Ive insisted, however, that BCO calls out to examine the property from head to toe so I can sleep at night ( and more importantly the residents of the flats ) and that's taking place tomorrow morning at 11:30. Spoke to the attending BC officer and what a thoroughly nice bloke. He said he'd call around, no fees required, and advise me accordingly. Should he deem intervention necessary then we'll stump up and tow the line. Many thanks again for the help and advice. Ill round this off after the site meeting.

+1. 4mm2 min as the price difference is chicken feed.

Tit. pmsl.

Get your arse around there and speak to them. Explain the cost involved in cleaning and securing the site ALONE, and ask if they'd let you adopt it.

There good for 10 bar so don't see why not. Only worry is the angle. Can you re drill it?

Never say never

What does your gut say? £5k / £10k?

Say NOTHING of the sort until your asked to do so. Just say that your not interested in developing it, and no more.

Call me old fashioned, but why not just go and ask them if they'll sell and if so how much please?

They also need quite beefy cable sizes too, if any significant distance away from the driver.

Cut, scrap, move on

Yup. I'm not exactly a fan tbh.

Why make life difficult? I assume you know you can't solder the tap connector or adjacent fittings whilst it's made off to the plastic stem? Seen many a nugget do that and not realise they've just melted the shit out of the fill valve stem. Another favourite seems to be doing the same on an electric shower. Keeps me in a job though

Standard 1/2" tap connector or flexi. I prefer flexis onto those as they have a rubber seal which is far more forgiving against the plastic stem. A tap connector will have a nylon / fibre washer and they are great fun to get spot on each time. A flexi can more or less be done up hand tight and still not leak. Watch for cross threading as that's a real pig of a connector to get on tidy first time.

I think the client will be happy just to get these done and rented tbh. Claiming the sub £4k vat via the business maybe an option ? As this is an investment, I don't know what their accountant will advise. Link to the business and write it off / other ? I have to draw a line somewhere, so advising them to seek advice through their accountant is where I'll detach myself I think. Offering to go labour only is the most I can practically offer, and also gives some transparency to my costs.

Sounds like the first step. Really appreciate the help as this lot is normally already sorted before I get on site. Not my area of expertise at all.

Take the feed for the cloakroom branch behind the cistern inlet and vertically straight down to the compression tee and DOC. 300mm or so down that vertical drop put a 15mm tee and an M&F 15 bend facing vertically and connect that to a flexi. Take the flexi and use that to feed the cistern and open an 4-pack. Pic here shows the tee turned sideways for illustration ( if you can call it that ) but I'd put it forward facing so the two pipes are one in front of the other. Use a ballofix flexi so you have isolation for the wc. Fit the flexi forts and that'll tell you where to cut into the vertical 15mm pipe. Drawing done whilst making fish fingers for 4 gannet-esque kids so please be gentle.

I have already advised the 'client' that they need to sit down for an hour or two with their current accountant as I've already suggested I go labour only and the materials come through them for the purposes of vat as I am not registered. Well, only as part sane anyhoo.

Guys, I really appreciate the info. Thanks all. Fyi, the shop is staying, it's just the existing basement flat and the existing 2nd floor flat which are being refurbished for habitation. They will be let out.

Tell me more about this 'certificate of lawful develpimnet' please This forum really is gold for the sheer diversity of knowledge. Thanks @PeterW Hopefully @Temp can advise too, more the merrier.

A friend has a shop, which is at pavement level, accessed from the front / roadside. The plot drops steeply and there is a full basement flat underneath, and then another above ( both likely to have been the original accommodation ). The shop owner wants to refurb the flats and rent them out, after they have remained dormant for a few years ( 10 or more me thinks ). When I told them to apply to BR, they were told by the BR staff to get PP first, but I thought if they were existing then would that not just be PD? After a few brief chats it seems the residential parts may never have actually been 'registered' ( a mix of A3 and A1 ? ) so that's maybe where the confusion lays. Would the BR dept maybe have made an error in stating that she seek PP, and maybe they meant PD? They're ringing Monday morning so should I get them to ask if this should get the go ahead without delay, via PD? Or would that stir the hornets nest? I fully understand the BCO needs to come and state what I need to do to comply with regs ( to get a completion cert etc ) but would the property not have just inherited the right to residential dwelling status if it can be demonstrated that they have been used like that for decades? The flats each have kitchens and bathrooms, and divisible spaces for living and sleeping so that should be easy enough to demonstrate. Any thoughts or tips for approaching the relevant depts would be much appreciated. Ta Edited to add : The shop is in a densely populated residential area, and has been there for decades. Neighbours to the side are friendly with the owners and the one to the rear is problematic ( moans about commercial bins etc ).

"You.....Boy!" Still sends a shiver down my spine. ? If you've done it before then your obviously happy and know how to best go about it. @Bitpipe had some flush ones which I'll look at for my next projects. I've a very handy mate who works the back shift on a £1m water jet so I'd prob get the cuts done by him. Cheeky £20 and job done. Beer heals a lot of problems. ?