Nickfromwales

If I've read correctly then your thinking about the shower and bath going into one 40mm connection ? That's not a good idea ( if so ). Shower on its own 40 and bath on its own 40, and then tee the basin into the bath. Then put an anti syphon trap onto the basin to allow some air admittance for the when the full bath is emptying. Shower doesn't need one. I do go OTT with the wastes under the boards TBH, but I haven't lost a patient yet. The difference is I'm installing for customers so I always go belt n 2 braces as my ethos is "why buy a 40mm pipe when I can spend a tiny bit more on 50mm ". . If the ? is heading in the right direction then it'll be staying nowhere after the first few bends / junctions I ass-sure you.

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/DeWalt-DE088K-Laser-Level-ASH48112/263347619400?hash=item3d50bdc648:g:aEwAAOSwTO9aHDIM and https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOSCH-PCL-20-SELF-LEVELLING-CROSS-LINE-LASER-LEVEL/162692585830?epid=1072996711&hash=item25e13bd966:g:FMUAAOSw-3pZz~R9 The dewalt ones take a real beating and just keep going. For £50-£70 I'd buy a used one or you'll get a cheap nasty laser.

So what we're all saying is that we're not going to go back to discussing solar farms then ?!? ??

That's lunch cancelled.

Spot on. Can you run 50mm waste for the shower? Makes a big difference to the discharge rates if running horizontal for any length over a metre.

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It's the real world which means two tiny cold bridges on an otherwise thermally efficient existing dwelling = infinitely better . Sometimes you've got to accept a little compromise. Calculate the additinal energy loss from those two insignificant bridges, and then work out the cost of re-doing all the good work so far and you'll have your answer. Just simply not worth it imo. Is the elevation in question at the side / rear ?

@Triassic What's your budget? I may know of a nearly new Bosch GLL-3-80 P for sale, which is the one I have. It's the mutts nuts and it'll sell for good money afterwards.

I think it's down to lifestyle. If you like to entertain then they're great for extending the formal and informal parts (dining room and patio) together to form one larger function space. Probably good to have the option of opening up to the elements, but also more importantly not to forget that you can simply open the first unit, much like a regular single width door, for fast / easy access in or out, without having to slide the whole thing or open any other mechanisms.

Back to solar farms it is !?

Just extend them for now and EWI the walls. Then cut them back so they can be clipped onto the EWI and move on with the bathroom.

@daiking Agree in part but would you be so tentative to their situation if after 2 years they said "sorry, it's not for us" ? Some security wouldn't be asking the world, and I'm not blaming them for the situation, just right now it's seems win-win for them and fingers crossed for Dave. .

Dave. I'd snap my right arm off to be able to build my own home, so chin up mate. The glass is always half full so be glad your not employed by someone for one ( with the sword of Damocles swinging over your head ) and not unsure if your job and income was safe. If you have to have the turkey in the 'van then embrace it and enjoy it, the build isn't going anywhere. Just go on and listen to the horror stories of self builders shafted for all their money and left with nothing, life savings in tatters and non-mortgageable home etc, and youll soon realise your position is actually quite enviable. Your build is on a ratchet, it can only move up a notch every time you do a bit more, and you've saved a ? load of money already by being a tradesman, so by your own admission are further ahead than you thought you'd be which is a huge positive . If you have to drip feed it then at least it's still getting fed, so stay positive and keep your spirits up. It's the wrong time of the year to be gloomy ? What assurances do you have of the tenants buying after the 2 year period ? If it's zero and based on a handshake then put the house back on the market as if they don't buy you'll be kicking yourself. Being nice is one thing, but if their serious when they see the for sale sign in the garden they'll make good on the promise and chuck some money on the table as a deposit. Get them a contract that says it's non-returnable and tell them to piss or get off the pot. £10k sounds like an achievable amount and if their as serious as they suggest won't cause any problems. There's too much riding on faith otherwise Chin up

Another option with corner branch and no boxing in.

This option utilises the parts that came supplied, but only work if the sides are boxed in. Option with a corner branch.

The two WC's can't tee together as the image shows, as the left hand WC cannot discharge into an equal branch. You'll need a Y-branch and a 45o bend so the flushing water is directed towards the stack without stalling. The corner branch dave linked is the proper fitting to use here TBH, so each WC connects to the stack independently. Using 45o bends or even 90o bends is perfectly acceptable. Are the WCs boxed in in each room ? Eg can you use the factory bend to exit sideways on the left WC using the factory connector and then a bend turning left so then facing direct into the stack? Then you could also do the same on the right hand WC and connect into a y branch just after where the left WC enters the storage space.

Time for change, as you can only blame the management. What a shambles of an office we have running the country. Selflessness and integrity are not any of the 'qualities' residing behind the doors of no.10. My biggest worry is how much worse it'll get. .

I know it's wishful thinking that our own internal infrastructure could manage this without it costing unnecessary £b of taxpayers cash. Ho hum. ??

Yes to the y branch as that's what I would have done TBH. Youll prob have to order one as not many merchants / sheds stock them.

I mean government driven and non negotiable. Set installation costs and no room for pickpockets. The councils could take on the task of installation and maintenance or have we forgotten such simple tasks don't actually NEED to be subbed out all the bloody time? By the time 3rd party pickpockets ( who invariably do the shittest quality lowest integrity work which ultimately creates maintenance and reliability issues & their subsequent rectification costs ) get a slice of the pie it'll be at least a decade before any benefit is felt. Its something that should be a not for profit drive, managed by the government and undertaken at cost. It would also create some jobs for life.

Why can't the government fit a pair of pv panels on every uk home / building ? The DNO's can be made to reinforce the grid out of their 'marginal' profits and that gargantuan area of m2 of wasted space will be utilised to reduce / slow down the destroying of the planet on which we've selfishly decided to suck dry at any cost. Wouldn't that be a better way to spend the money being tossed into the nuclear pot?

My old vinyl floor used to get destroyed by my sil's high heel boots. They give ridiculous point pressure Funny how folk won't wear shoes in their own house but will not take them off in others .

tell you later

+1. Even purpose laid plywood will need what the layers call 'smoothing compound' to get the joints and screw holes invisible. Its like self levelling compound but much finer and can be feathered out to nothing and 'sanded' with a carborundum block.

It's nice stuff ?