Barney12 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: @Onoff I've never had one with a backnut. Tbh, it's rare to get rear access so you'd never get to fit one anyway. The one you've got fits as follows. : 1) you measure the diameter of the fitting, the chrome bit after the brass thread. 2) you get that size tile hole saw and make a hole 2-3mm bigger. 3) you fit an outside tap backplate into the wall at about 1/4" shy of finished tile face. 4) you tile and grout after blanking the outlet and pressure testing. 5) turn the fitting into the outlet until its tight. At this stage it'll likely have bottomed out without the chrome going past the tile face. 6) measure what you need for the chrome bit to finish 3-4mm into the tile. 7) cut that much off the brass thread. 8) you put 22-26 turns of ptfe onto the last 25mm of thread ( so 50 turns or so in total to get the thread covered ) 9) turn the outlet into the backplate until it's pointing down and just shy of proud of the tile face ( slightly recessed ) 10) do not go so far that you have to back turn anti clockwise 11) clear ct1 the tile hole tobthe brass thread by pumping it full. 12 ) push the cover ring down the outlet until it rests on the tile. It's NOT there as a waterproof seal, and the rubber o-ring is only a friction ring to keep it parked. The ct1 forms the watertight element. Clear as mud ? So what I said a few posts earlier. Although my reply lacked a good deal of detail.
Onoff Posted January 14, 2018 Author Posted January 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, Barney12 said: So what I said a few posts earlier. Although my reply lacked a good deal of detail. Erm...I must have missed that. Check the Welsh Wizard's post for the sort of reply I was looking for!
Nickfromwales Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Barney12 said: So what I said a few posts earlier. Although my reply lacked a good deal of detail. Don't beat yourself up.........let me do it
Nickfromwales Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Does the Allen key allow the chrome and the brass to be pulled apart ? Is the inside of the chrome outlet hexagon shaped to take an Allen key ?
Onoff Posted January 14, 2018 Author Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Does the Allen key allow the chrome and the brass to be pulled apart ? Is the inside of the chrome outlet hexagon shaped to take an Allen key ? I'm not going out to find big Allen keys at this time of night but there's deffo a hex in each bit: EDIT: It was little more than hand tight, does that change things? Edited January 14, 2018 by Onoff
Barney12 Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Don't beat yourself up.........let me do it I like to think by only providing half the answer @Onoff gets to learn more 1
Onoff Posted January 14, 2018 Author Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Barney12 said: I like to think by only providing half the answer @Onoff gets to learn more He needs the whole answer as he's a very slow learner.....
Nickfromwales Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 That's not the type that gets wound in by a hex key until it bottoms out and then the chrome bit get fitted over it and it's o-rings and then centralised and held in place by grub screws. Stick to my ( comprehensive ) instruction and you'll be all gravy, baby. Regarding the PTFE tape just put loads on, for the depth of the outlet female thread and a bit beyond. 1
Onoff Posted January 14, 2018 Author Posted January 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: That's not the type that gets wound in by a hex key until it bottoms out and then the chrome bit get fitted over it and it's o-rings and then centralised and held in place by grub screws. Stick to my ( comprehensive ) instruction and you'll be all gravy, baby. Regarding the PTFE tape just put loads on, for the depth of the outlet female thread and a bit beyond. Ta. I will likely lose the hex portion, either some or all in the brass threaded section when I cut that down. I'll therefore need to make damn sure it's screwed in tight against that rubber washer. I wonder if this would benefit from some liquid PTFE or other such setting sealant before I screw the brass in. Might guard against it loosening?
Nickfromwales Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, Onoff said: Ta. I will likely lose the hex portion, either some or all in the brass threaded section when I cut that down. I'll therefore need to make damn sure it's screwed in tight against that rubber washer. I wonder if this would benefit from some liquid PTFE or other such setting sealant before I screw the brass in. Might guard against it loosening? You cut the section, then screw that into the outlet until it hits the rubber washer. Then you wind the pair in, in unison, until the lot is sent home. Tbh is probably change the rubber washer to a fibre one as the rubber one may well scrunch up or displace under the torque required to compress the PTFE. It's not the greatest design but it's the same as many I've fitted before. In fact, I think I'd use the liquid PTFE on the brass where it screws into the outlet and a few turns of PTFE tape and ditch the washer altogether. That'll be bombproof .
Onoff Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 SWMBO wants this cupboard primarily for a SQUARE laundry basket. FFS the door will be shut on it 99.9% of the time. She's spent ages finding the correct one. Still, I'll get to indulge myself with the st/st lined, stacking bog roll store / dispenser hidden in the wall! Got to re-jig the 15mm copper that was the original mains in but will now be the feed to the Geberit wc. Will have to rethink the downlight I was having in the cupboard on a door switch. It'll drive me nuts having it off centre but I can't anyway now as be too close to the joist above. Two's going to be ott. PPPPPP! Still, makes a bloody good home for the drills. Can't see that lasting
Russell griffiths Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Hold on, hold on, what the f##k is going on with screw number 5 it’s way off line, get that board off and re do it properly, bloody rough boarders.
Onoff Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 I'm my defence as well as having had a glass of wine, SWMBO was "hovering" as they do, telling me about her day and putting me off!
Onoff Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Hold on, hold on, what the f##k is going on with screw number 5 it’s way off line, get that board off and re do it properly, bloody rough boarders. That board above the door is on with Sticks Like Sh!t as I've had a tube lying around for ages and wanted to save the Sikaflex.
Gone West Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Onoff said: SWMBO wants this cupboard primarily for a SQUARE laundry basket. FFS the door will be shut on it 99.9% of the time. She's spent ages finding the correct one. Wendy knows better than to expect a nice square cupboard to keep a laundry basket in so she bought one of these. https://www.brabantia.com/uk/foldable-laundry-basket-grey/
Onoff Posted February 14, 2018 Author Posted February 14, 2018 I might do the body dryer sober. Seemed quite high when I was up there...
Russell griffiths Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 I don’t think you should tile it i could look at those neat screw lines all day long. 2
ToughButterCup Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 11 hours ago, PeterStarck said: Wendy knows better than to expect a nice square cupboard to keep a laundry basket in so she bought one of these.[...] Sensible lass.
Onoff Posted February 14, 2018 Author Posted February 14, 2018 Managed the rectangular cut out without falling off the steps! Didn't puncture the vcl either! Might leave the 180mm circular cut out until tomorrow.
Onoff Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) And the moral of the story is don't mark out / cut things when you've had a sherbert! Looked this morning and the slot doesn't look perpendicular to the back wall...which it needs to be! The pencil line running left to right is perpendicular to the back wall. WHOOPS! I have a cunning plan though... Edited February 15, 2018 by Onoff
Pete Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Message to the Mods really. Does this need re-naming to be the Encyclopedia of bathroom renovation with chapters etc!! 1
Onoff Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Yay! In the cold, sober light of day I'm bang on perpendicular to the rear wall! TF for optical delusions! Moral, drink more! I now need to cut an accurate 180mm dia hole in the ceiling but DON'T want to spend £30 odd on a tool with a dust cowl so off to T'station for their <£10 version. Edited February 15, 2018 by Onoff
Nickfromwales Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 7 hours ago, Pete said: Message to the Mods really. Does this need re-naming to be the Encyclopedia of bathroom renovation with chapters etc!! I am tempted to Rename it....... "The Bog Supa-Blog" 1
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