MikeSharp01

It depends on what the extra generation enables, how much of the profits from the generation get back into the local (UK) economy and the amount of work generated internally and externally in building the generation out.

I have started a new topic to carry on this aspect of the this thread to allow this one to get back on track.

That is a lot of duct. Our duct was only 2m long as the pole is in the front of our plot and the service block is right there they didn't need a pull rope.

If you don't want to remake the whole front and cannot accept any other of the above this will be your only option. You could make it removeable if it offends when both parts are hinged out. I also note that the shelf adjacent to the gap with the hinges does not align with it well. I hesitate to suggest this but like so many challenges of this sort it might be worth contemplating fixing this in your heads rather than in the physical world.

We didn't use BT ducting - which you can get from many suppliers -E.G. HERE, I used 28mm Pex-AL-Pex pipe (You need to ensure it is covered as it is not UV protected but as I am not using it for water I think it will last for almost ever) which I steam bent (just ran the wallpaper stripper through it for 10 minutes) to 150mm rad bends as a continuous run from the pole to the wall where BT will want to install what they call their 'outside' box. (It is where they splice the incoming cable from the local infrastructure to the fibre that will actually go into your building and up to the Fibre - CAT6 converter BT will fit.) So you may need two duct runs one to get to that outside box and then from there to the inside box if its a long run. The BT team arrived looked at the job and said this looks too easy as you have done all our work for us. Fed the fibre through the duct, no draw wire needed, fitted the boxes and tested the system - and pushed off home early!

We have all our services; Gas - not connected, Electricity, Water and the FTTP, to a services block at the front of the property we then take the services into the buildings from there. So the router is in the house but the little box that converts the fibre to CAT6, the fibre comes down the local pole and along the duct we installed from it to the services block - not far, is in the services block. I also have the external temperature & humidity sensor there, so well away from the influences of the house, and will shortly have the energy monitor there on the network as the smart meter is there as well.

+1 to that, I have one and it is so useful and not just for taking things apart. I also have a couple of these: https://www.workshopheaven.com/arno-framing-chisel-40mm/ which you can sharpen anytime and give you a great pry action and they are, as they say in the blurb, bombproof because they are all steel.

Wheely bins really are the invention of the devil.

Yes I guess it comes down somewhat to interpretation, ensuring the safety of future users and what the person signing it all off will accept. I surmise that if you have a 2m wide x 1 m high CU you will have loads of safe zone to play with.

Yes I understand the safe zone system but it seems odd it applies if the whole wall is the back of the panel and to drill a hole you would have to open the panel at which point the cables would not be concealed anymore so the regulation would no longer apply IMHO.

Does that apply if the CU is in its own cabinet, with access hole to the switches, and / or cables are surface trunked?

Don't disagree but just because there have been no failures yet it can not mean there won't be - they were very happy with the Comet for a bit IIRC. Also introducing flexies may bring the Mean Time Before / Between Failure (MTBF) down because you are increasing complexity. More parts that can fail. So either way it is swings and roundabouts but the point I made remains a truth because the past tells us nothing 100% reliably about the future - other, of course, than death and taxes. (Although I guess it is possible to avoid taxes - so just death then.)

You are not wrong on prices - they publish their price list (https://jaga.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Strada-Price-List-032023.pdf) which gives you a feel for what it might cost - keep an eye on the height (left most column). Heat output looks good though and the construction looks excellent but I would not want the cleaning job given all those fins!

Well at least not yet

I appreciate that this perhaps a little extreme but what you don't want is any large load switching / transitions or high frequency power control happening local to sensitive small signal cabling / devices. Having done a lot of work with EMC control, albeit in industrial / academic environment I am aware of just how challenging it can be at times to ensure no interference. So I would not run any thing like rings through the Loxone box and not have them running anywhere close to small signal cables EG networks (unless very well screened), alarm systems, sensor feeds, audio, and Radio Frequency (Aerial cables). Turning a Kettle on for instance puts a current spike on the ring and this leads to spiky magnetic effects emanating from the cable along its length. If the Loxone box is metal you could mount it slightly off the wall and run the cables behind it and provide a good earth to the cabinet but keep the power lines to one side of the large duct shown in your drawing and once they get into the ceiling keep them separate from everything else in 3D space. If it is plastic then put the power cables in metal trunking behind the cabinet and earth the trunking. I suspect that the power into the Loxone box and any power control it does will be set around with some advice from them about running the power lines within the cabinet.

Sounds fun - did you mean enacted?

Where have you been this thread is at least 20 posts old

Where did you find it discounted? I need one in a month or so.

PIR is stiff up to its strength limit, interesting Youngs modulus I suspect, then just snaps rather than bend so I would have thought it would do it. Why not try a piece and see - you will need some big plastic washers to hold the PIR in place. To fix the ceiling make sure you measure / know the centers of all your purlins so you can find them again once you have the PIR in place.

Really thinking things through can sometimes be mistaken for procrastination but 'no', really thinking things through save heaps of trouble in the long run.

Hi and welcome. 4K/m2 is a good budget even in Dublin. So you should get it into your budget - just so I am clear you are adding about 60m2 to the floor plan across two floors with a mixture of single and double storey? I have struggled to see how the elevations tie up with the plans in places. It feels a bit cramped, lots going on! (I am no architect). I cannot get an idea of the problem your wife has and I am not sure what the covered outside portion does would it not be better to enclose all of that to give you a little more space internally?

Welcome to THE forum!

With a price tag to match and most users won't use 10% of what it can do. I quite like Draftsight for 2D (£200 PA) and OnShape for 3D (Free - but you have to share your drawings with anyone who wants to look!)

Whow / how do you keep the site so 'clear' of everything?

Just read the report on ASHP installs against the grant scheme on the BBC - source of graphic below. It is seems interesting / instructive that the coldest places, where you may think heat pumps would struggle, have the highest take up. While, perhaps the stand out insight is that the UK - despite our proclaimed aspiration for leadership in green technologies is in last place on this list. Given these insights one wonders if we might be approaching the point of being able to say that, in this area, we are becoming something of a joke! Image source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66033199