Russell griffiths Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 So a fellow build hubber commented that he had just read my blog, and he had found that one of the suppliers I had recommended has now got pictures of my build on the home page of their website. Without my knowledge or consent, is this allowed, should I have the hump, should I contact them for an explanation, or do you not have any control over pictures you take anymore. Slightly pissed off from Cirencester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Did you sign any contract with them in which there might have been a bit in very very small writing hid at the bottom about using media from your job for marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: So a fellow build hubber commented that he had just read my blog, and he had found that one of the suppliers I had recommended has now got pictures of my build on the home page of their website. Without my knowledge or consent, is this allowed, should I have the hump, should I contact them for an explanation, or do you not have any control over pictures you take anymore. Slightly pissed off from Cirencester. @JSHarris had similar happen I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: So a fellow build hubber commented that he had just read my blog, and he had found that one of the suppliers I had recommended has now got pictures of my build on the home page of their website. Without my knowledge or consent, is this allowed, should I have the hump, should I contact them for an explanation, or do you not have any control over pictures you take anymore. Slightly pissed off from Cirencester. Content from here can’t be used commercially. If they obtained it from us then they haven’t the right to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 42 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Without my knowledge or consent, is this allowed, No. There can be complications but if you took the photograph with your own camera on your own time then it's highly likely you own the copyright to it though it's just possible your architect could have a small interest in the subject (something that's more likely to be an issue under, e.g., French law than UK law). Nobody else should use the picture without your explicit consent, e.g., given when you signed up to this forum, except in very limited circumstances which wouldn't include use on a commercial web site. 40 minutes ago, Declan52 said: Did you sign any contract with them in which there might have been a bit in very very small writing hid at the bottom about using media from your job for marketing. Possibly they have a clause saying they can take pictures themselves for marketing purposes (even that's unlikely) but if they have one trying to claim rights to other people's pictures then I'd think it'd be very tricky to enforce as it'd likely be chucked out as unfair. Personally, I'd write them an e-mail saying I don't really mind but that they should have asked first and please can they attribute the picture. If they argued, I'd tell them to take the picture down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 I sent a couple of pics to my piling contractor, who I have got on very well with, unbeknown to me he I presume has sent them on to a steel reinforcement company, who now have it as their banner pic on their home page. Im not after money or a discount on future orders, I’m just slightly annoyed at not being asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 Ok, been doing a bit of research the pics I sent the piling man are different from the ones that are being used on their website. So they must have been uploaded from my blog on this forum. Would a mod contact me to let me know the forums feelings on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 @Russell griffiths it’s very clear in the T&Cs section 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, PeterW said: @Russell griffiths it’s very clear in the T&Cs section 3. Forum Ts & Cs seem fair enough. Read it that copyright remains that of the posting member but in posting we grant licence to BH to use as they see fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) @Russell griffiths I’ve had this happen to me lots of times with my photos (not this forum) and I always send the offending company an invoice Edited March 28, 2019 by Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Ian said: @Russell griffiths I’ve had this happen to me lots of times with my photos (not this forum) and I always send the offending company an invoice Do they pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) @Onoff I’ve always been paid when it’s a commercial company that’s taken my photos without permission. That includes major companies (eg Gr**npeace, Local Authorities who should know better) and smaller ones like @Russell griffiths building company. I’ve also had people using my photos on social media sites claiming that they were the photographer - in those cases Google have been very helpful inc removing whole pages from the www. Edited March 28, 2019 by Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Ian said: @Russell griffiths I’ve had this happen to me lots of times with my photos (not this forum) and I always send the offending company an invoice Hi Ian thanks for the reply what would be an appropriate fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Hi Ian thanks for the reply what would be an appropriate fee. Assuming they are a smallish company I’d charge about £100 as a minimum. If they agree then I can give you some wording to use regarding the license and copyright issues Edited March 28, 2019 by Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 @Russell griffiths, may I suggest you do nothing. ' Leave 'im 'ee aint wurf it Russ !' Unless there are many photos, it'll be an unnecessary distraction for you. @Ian suggests £100. You'll have to work hard for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, recoveringacademic said: @Russell griffiths, may I suggest you do nothing. ' Leave 'im 'ee aint wurf it Russ !' Unless there are many photos, it'll be an unnecessary distraction for you. @Ian suggests £100. You'll have to work hard for that. For me it’s happened a lot and I earn part of my income from photography so I always send an invoice. If they don’t pay for any reason (usually non-commercial use by an individual) and the photo is online on social media etc then I complain to Google or the social media provider which has always resulted in removal of the photo. For a £100 invoice I wouldn’t spend money on legal advice or small claims court fees but it costs nothing to send an invoice and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 @Ian @recoveringacademic The money is not important, it’s more the fact that this just shows me how the world is nowadays it would have been very easy for the company to send me a message asking for permission, TBH I would have been flattered a bottle of wine in the post I would have been ecstatic. It just annoys me that everyone thinks they can do as they please without a bit of common courtesy. I have gone from being slightly intrigued, to marginaly pissed off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: I have gone from being slightly intrigued, to marginaly pissed off. Quote The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada. The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's Get the Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years. John Cleese A bit old but still true??? Edited March 28, 2019 by Hecateh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recoveringbuilder Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Too true, just spent a while trying to think of another word to use instead of pissed off! Don’t think my solicitor would like me using that language! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 12 hours ago, PeterW said: @Russell griffiths it’s very clear in the T&Cs section 3. I have a legal point of order. Would the T&Cs apply to an anonymous visitor assuming that is how the supplier gained access to the blog photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, epsilonGreedy said: I have a legal point of order. Would the T&Cs apply to an anonymous visitor assuming that is how the supplier gained access to the blog photos? Yes - the T&Cs are for access to the site - not just for membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, PeterW said: Yes - the T&Cs are for access to the site - not just for membership. I was going to ask if it is possible to enforce a contract that an anonymous has never seen but that might lead to a policy popup page interfering with every anonymous user visit. There is always basic copyright law as a fallback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Is it possible for the forum software to superimpose a water mark on uploaded photographs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, ProDave said: Is it possible for the forum software to superimpose a water mark on uploaded photographs? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA3222 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 In the grand scheme of life does it really matter? Why waste time and energy getting pee'd off about something inconsequential like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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