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Shame, that. Mind you, I don't share my Schnapps, sauerkraut and sausage either. Even with Noddy. Big Ears on the other hand.....

I worked with many Germans whose English was better than mine - if grammatical precision matters. I for one would be very pleased if English were to lose its place as the lingua franca. The chances of that happening are nil. In my experience, I have never ever heard an American business person bother to attempt a foreign language during business negotiations. Maybe things have changed: if they have I'll be pleased.

Hmmm. There's a bit of me which thinks I should screw doublers to the ends of the joists. Maybe a triangle of plywood (right angle triangle) either side of 'endplate'.... hard up against the wallplate.

Thanks @ProDave and @JSHarris both. I'll try the techniques you suggest. Got some araldite and spare pencils... Lost a bit of sleep on this one last night. What's new eh? Nowt.

The BCO and I both asked Cullens (hanger manufacturer) about that and were assured they are correctly designed

Does anyone agree with my perception - there's an uncomfortable level of glee among MPs, reflected by some reporting? Uncomfortable because it smacks of self interest. Uncomfortable because self interest is the polar opposite of leadership. And that's really disappointing because it reinforces the sneer in mind every time I think of politicians.

Professionally, I spent many years trying hard to simplify the complexity contained in large amounts of material. And I can't simplify this brouhaha for myself. I'm averagely busy. A bit more than averagely tired. And I really can't get my head round it all. Listening to the vox pops on the radio, I'm not alone. Its so tempting to blame our leaders. I'm beginning to suspect that I do that instead of thinking for myself.

Nick Robinson did a good podcast recently explaining how Cameron was forced into it for fear of losing votes to Mr Farage. There's at least some logic in that, I think.....

And now down to practical nitty gritty bits.... The guidance from POSI says leave a 50ml gap between the wall and the first joist. Hmmmm.... look at this There's no way even an eight-fingered self-builder like me can whack that hanger in place. So,erm ? Put the hanger in first? Get Debbie to do it? Put up with the moaning and gurning? Its only the end of run / beginning of run joists that'll have this little quirk.

As I pointed out very early on in the thread, all it takes for us to hold this thread open is to ; not cause offence not take offence and to try hard not to give offence. realise that perceptions matter

Common practice across Germany.

This is a painful topic. I am not arguing that it should not be discussed. Could I suggest to all, responses to this thread should be drafted with great care. Care not to give offence, care not to take offence. And care not to be offensive. Think also, please, of how some may read more (or less) into your post than intended. Perceptions matter. To answer your point directly, @gc100, an extremely high proportion of my build was sourced from Germany or Austria - the design rationale is German too. I agree with you, No Deal will add to the challenges I face. And so increase costs.

Well, if they don't @Russell griffiths, I'll just plonk my joists in their hangers, stick the floor to the top of the joists and Think of Engerland innit ....

A year ago, I wondered -not for long- whether I should do a summary of this thread. As I say, didn't take me long to decide.

I've learned my lesson. Never visit a BM. Order and have delivered. Too much temptation.