zoothorn Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 ahem.. for wales. that's all they do here see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Isn't Wales part of Britain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Onoff said: Isn't Wales part of Britain? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Don’t fit the noggins just yet .... just cut the hole, offer up the hatch and screw to the joist on one side. Pack the other side with a couple of offcuts, then drill and screw through into the joist. Now measure and cut your noggins, flush them up tight to each end and screw in, then screw the noggin to the joists with some 70mm screws. Much easier than trying to make the opening first and get it square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PeterW said: Don’t fit the noggins just yet .... just cut the hole, offer up the hatch and screw to the joist on one side. Pack the other side with a couple of offcuts, then drill and screw through into the joist. Now measure and cut your noggins, flush them up tight to each end and screw in, then screw the noggin to the joists with some 70mm screws. Much easier than trying to make the opening first and get it square. I was going suggest that...but didn't. I couldn't face the "will it be strong enough without the noggins" etc. Hang on...he wants to prep it now before he gets the hatch. Nothing wrong with my way Zoot, go for it, just use a square. Edited December 10, 2020 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Onoff said: Isn't Wales part of Britain? NO. It is WALES. It is superior to britain with all those english pigs spreading their mucus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Onoff said: I was going suggest that...but didn't. I couldn't face the "will it be strong enough without the noggins" etc. Hang on...he wants to prep it now before he gets the hatch. Nothing wrong with my way Zoot, go for it, just use a square. That's a good idea by Peter.. understood, I mean if I get the nogs in & one a mite too tight.. urgh that's alot of moaning then. The joists are bound to be not pararlelell. I'll cut my pB along joists for now up to 762mm & make the pB rectangle hole, until hatch here. Semi prep. Thanks for the sketch btw.. gives me confidence. I have 9mm birch ply.. so can line each joist side ready too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, zoothorn said: That's a good idea by Peter.. understood, I mean if I get the nogs in & one a mite too tight.. urgh that's alot of moaning then. The joists are bound to be not pararlelell. I'll cut my pB along joists for now up to 762mm & make the pB rectangle hole, until hatch here. Semi prep. Thanks for the sketch btw.. gives me confidence. I have 9mm birch ply.. so can line each joist side ready too. No different to if you line each side with 9mm ply and are a mm too tight! Noggins will move enough with a big hammer. They just do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 Ok so the min fitting is 553mm.. max is 562mm. How does this figure then? cant get my head around what size the placcy frame is likely to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, zoothorn said: Ok so the min fitting is 553mm.. max is 562mm. How does this figure then? cant get my head around what size the placcy frame is likely to be. Wait till you get it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangti6 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The min dimension is probably the minimum ‘ole it will squeeze in to and the max is probably the largest opening you’d want to create unless you like to see a rough cut gap around the frame lip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Onoff said: Wait till you get it then? Yes I think so, I just wondered if you could decyphr what these figs mean.. Im really thick like this, as you know by now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Don't cut the hole fully till the hatch is beside you and you have measured it and measured it and measured it. Draw with a pencil on the plasterboard the correct size and then cut along the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Have you noticed Zoot that you've stopped whinging about your ASHP? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Onoff said: Have you noticed Zoot that you've stopped whinging about your ASHP? ? Because he’s roasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, Onoff said: Have you noticed Zoot that you've stopped whinging about your ASHP? ? Cos its warmer, so im not freezing my c*ck off, and damn thing behaves above 4* so i can sleep. Otherwise id moan like a cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Declan52 said: Don't cut the hole fully till the hatch is beside you and you have measured it and measured it and measured it. Draw with a pencil on the plasterboard the correct size and then cut along the line. Ok roger that Declan, that's sensible advice I'll do that. Means im scuppered for a job looking at the walnut whip dalek for a few days tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, zoothorn said: Otherwise id moan like a cow. No, not our Zoot! ? Edited December 10, 2020 by MJNewton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Time for some upbeat Zoot (not actually a repost). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 8 hours ago, zoothorn said: Ok roger that Declan, that's sensible advice I'll do that. Means im scuppered for a job looking at the walnut whip dalek for a few days tho. You could take the time to pin a Sam Fox/Linda Lusardi/Kathy Lloyd poster directly above your bed like I had as a kid. Wouldn't be so bad looking up the hole then. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Onoff said: You could take the time to pin a Sam Fox/Linda Lusardi/Kathy Lloyd poster directly above your bed like I had as a kid. Wouldn't be so bad looking up the hole then. Im keeping the dalek, tho it does look like he's a bit over excited. Walnut whips & Linda lusardi.. your giving your age away! I gotta get the thing up with the door on then, just myself. Tubby tubster should've told us his was a '03' as I bought it after watching the clip.. no '03' on his box just gl-250. Maybe I can ask Vaillant guy next friday to lend a hand for a few mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, zoothorn said: Im keeping the dalek, tho it does look like he's a bit over excited. Walnut whips & Linda lusardi.. your giving your age away! I gotta get the thing up with the door on then, just myself. Tubby tubster should've told us his was a '03' as I bought it after watching the clip.. no '03' on his box just gl-250. Maybe I can ask Vaillant guy next friday to lend a hand for a few mins. I never liked the coffee Walnut Whips... They're very light tbh. Use a couple of clamps to hold loosely in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Ah yes good idea- I have a few of those vg irwin clamps, recommended on here for my cabin project.. I use for work now. I'm picking off all my porch rot today in meantime.. a fair old bit of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 @Ferdinand thanks for the tune.. they're not dancers they're athletes jeepers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 @PeterW you were right.. i only have 3.5 ft in the loft, in midpoint so i dont have room to work, also as i find 2 x 100mm orange fiberglass.. with so much just finding the rafters, repositioning it, and esp adding any more isn't a feasable prospect i dont think. So a big c*ck up putting this hatch in. Totally my fault. So, now a damage limitation exercise, just put hatch in. Ive made the pb hole. But i have existing nogs in the way/ hampering putting in the two new short end nogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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