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Truly DIY SIP construction…
Iceverge replied to G and J's topic in Structural Insulated Panels (SIPs)
Ah, there's a convention to have a vapour control layer (VCL) inboard of any timber structure in this neck of the woods. It's yet another of those things that based on worse case scenario with terrible workmanship assumed. Applied without thought and understanding is risky. In this case you would risk trapping moisture in the structure between two materials of very low vapour permeability (VCL and PIR). Almost all moisture is carried into a wall via air paths (read poor airtightness). If you were to build with cellulose and an external airtightness layer you could expect to see very good air test results if done diligently and it's simple to implement. Omitting the VCL would allow any moisture to dry to the inside again. Sounds like a good architect. No harm to be diligent however. Those pics are from the kingspan design details which use SIP splines but solid timber around the openings etc. 50mm of PIR outboard of any framing would all but eliminate any bridging concerns. -
Truly DIY SIP construction…
Iceverge replied to G and J's topic in Structural Insulated Panels (SIPs)
Just saw the plans, That's a nice house, credit to your designer. It is a very tight site however! I'm going to double down on a stick build plan. You could buy every material at your local builders merchants yard, drop it in an 8x4 builders trailer and hand ball them into place completely eliminating any need for trucks of cranes etc. -
Truly DIY SIP construction…
Iceverge replied to G and J's topic in Structural Insulated Panels (SIPs)
For thermal bridging mitigation nothing matches a continuous layer of external insulation for ease of install and performance. Now some issues that are really really important in the practicalities of building. 1. Local and completive availability of materials. 2. Ease of making airtight and wind tightness. 3. Fire resistance. 4. Noise protection 5. Ease of installing services. 6. Lightly hood of finding appropriate tradespeople. 7. Need for specialist equipment. I reckon you should reconsider a stick build with a layer of PIR outboard and not get too tied up by the U value of the individual element but look at the wall as a whole. Or better still replace the mineral wool with blown cellulose. No messing with itchy mineral wool, tremendous airtightness with a taped OSB layer externally and cellulose. Plenty of room to deal with services, good noise performance, really good phase shift (decrement delay) for heat protection. Lots of scope to deal with your chosen merchant for a competitive rate on materials. It can all be installed by 2 carpenters on site with no special materials. -
Truly DIY SIP construction…
Iceverge replied to G and J's topic in Structural Insulated Panels (SIPs)
@G and J I've been loosely following this. The essentials are you want a low U-Value Wall, with minimal thickness on a site that constrains the use of high overhead machinery. If you really want to dig into the weeds on this I'd advise that you try thermally modelling the entire wall, not just a simple U value calculator, in order to account for thermal bridges. Once you get towards any acceptable U values thermal bridging becomes really significant. Particularly around windows/doors, the floor wall joint and the first floor ceiling band area. You'd be surprised how the promised performance of a SIP wall worsens, once taking these all into consideration, as SIPS often require solid timber blocking in these areas. -
Almost any design can be made into a passivhaus, it just depends how much you want to spend. Have you ran your design through PHPP? Caution this approach. Some natural materials have worse embodied energy than synthetic ones. Again it's a thing of many variables. Much depends on your wall construction, ground conditions etc. in our case strip foundations were cheaper. Properly designed they can be excellent thermally too. Maybe have a shot of THERM. it's a bit of a pig to get used to but can give an excellent insight into thermal bridging.
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Urgent assistance: Constructing Flat roof stuck with a problem
Iceverge replied to Hemant's topic in Flat Roofs
How much can you afford to drop the ceiling by? Lowering the steel is probably cheaper than replacing the window.- 8 replies
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@thaldine Move here to the West of Ireland where for 11 months of the year everything is DAMP DAMP DAMP!!! Seriously though, I would advocate building a passive house. An ERV like this will maintain the humidity at your desired level without having to resort to under-ventilation to raise the RH Levels. (This will bring other issues like high VOCs and CO2) The better you can make your airtighess the better too. Otherwise you'll still be at the mercy of the weather which seems to be making your symptoms worse. Thermal bridge free design should help keep any condensation spots from developing too. This is important because these moist corners are where moulds and insects like to breed. The lack of drafts and cold spots will make the house comfortable at a lower internal air temperature which will result in lower RH levels too.
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Posts for raised decking: timber or plastic?
Iceverge replied to Lift span's topic in Landscaping, Decking & Patios
A picture paints 1000 words. Ok, the slope isn't mega. I had visions of a cliff like fall. Also your access is pretty good. Looking at your sketches I would be concerned about the maintenance of the wood that near to all that vegetation. Also I would be worried that the crawlspace would be a haven for undesirable wild life. Could something like building up the ground into a patio work instead?- 33 replies
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Posts for raised decking: timber or plastic?
Iceverge replied to Lift span's topic in Landscaping, Decking & Patios
Ah, I see the 1.5m. Whatever about getting an engineer I would be inclined to decouple it from your house and discard the ledger board. That way if it slides down the hill of moves in a gale at least it won't pull the wall of your house with it.- 33 replies
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Posts for raised decking: timber or plastic?
Iceverge replied to Lift span's topic in Landscaping, Decking & Patios
How tall are the legs of the piers lightly to be? Will they be visible? What's the ground surface underneath like?- 33 replies
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Welcome welcome. It's nice to see new projects getting going. Moving from a bungalow to a two story is an interesting one. I grew up in a two story house but after numerous moves ended up in a single floor cottage before moving back into our two story. 3 kids later I think I'd opt for a bungalow in hindsight. Yes for PH it's a poorer form factor but apart from the ease of living advantages there's lots of maintenance and construction benefits too. Any particular reason for this? Some aren't necessarily any more healthy or less polluting than readily available mass produced materials. Good luck.
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Posts for raised decking: timber or plastic?
Iceverge replied to Lift span's topic in Landscaping, Decking & Patios
Concrete piers? Something like Sonotube they use in the US.- 33 replies
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SIP wall thickness vs u value
Iceverge replied to Bournbrook 's topic in Structural Insulated Panels (SIPs)
No idea, I've always assumed the were made from a mixture of glue and disappointment. -
Thinnest and strongest blocks for partition walls?
Iceverge replied to MariaD's topic in Brick & Block
@MariaD What two rooms are you hoping to separate? What are you hoping to hang on the walls -
SIP wall thickness vs u value
Iceverge replied to Bournbrook 's topic in Structural Insulated Panels (SIPs)
You'll need to use the thicker 172mm panel for that U value. The absolute thinnest buildup I can think of is essentially a metal skinned SIP. is https://www.kingspan.com/gb/en/products/insulated-panels/wall-panels/quadcore-awp-wall-panel/ Is this going to be a garden room effectively? -
.31 ACH. It needs attention to detail mind you.
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What to do with Excess/Cheap Power?
Iceverge replied to puntloos's topic in General Alternative Energy Issues
Take up some kind high electricity hobbies. Maybe smelt some steel or do some evaporative desalination. -
Me too. The white book from gypsum is about as close to anything I've found. In any case it depends on as built workmanship. 1. Block air paths for the sound to travel through. 2. Add mass 3. Counter resonance with a fluffy material somewhere in the buildup. 4. Decouple the materials in a wall. A cavity wall can do these pretty well if wet plastered and using a full fill mineral wool insulation. PIR is crap. It doesn't deal with air paths unless you use some something dear like gafotape. Blown cellulose is very good. It eliminates any gaps when done well.
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Been there, tried it out, from the car battery on tickover. €200 2kw inverter from eurocar parts. The Modified Sine wave does not play nicely with our Led bulbs or the induction cooker. One bulb started flickering uncontrollably and another smoked and set off the fire alarm However everything else worked A1. I looked at getting a better inverter but a quality brand like Victron was almost the same price as a generator. I bought a loncin LC8000 generator instead. Key start and AVR and enough poke to cook and heat water with.
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To continue this thread. I would do a TF on site if going again. 25mm sand cement render. 100mm dense blockwork. 50mm vented cavity. Breather membrane 11mm OSB 220mmx44mm @600cc studs with cellulose. Airtighness membrane. 97x44mm vertical studs offset from main studs as service cavity @600cc filled with cellulose. 12.5mm plasterboard More 12.5mm plasterboard. Skim.
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Something sadly often forgotten is the well being of the people on the site during the build. We have a concrete monster. 600mm thick cavity walls, 150mm hollowcore first floor slabs with 75mm concrete on top. 150mm concrete ground floor slab. Concrete is heavy, and sloppy and dusty and noisy, and unforgiving. I hated coring holes, chasing walls, fixing to blocks etc. At one point I was trying to make a 100*50mm chase for electric mains in a wall with a 9"grinder. I couldn't hear with the noise, I couldn't see with the dust, I couldn't feel anything with the vibrations and the couldn't breath with the respirator. Cruel and unusual punishment. Meanwhile my timber garage I really loved. Chiseling the timber, sawing the joists, hammering about 5000 nails in by hand. I grew a small beard, grinned at the swallows flying overhead, sharpened my pencil with a penknife and wondered why on earth Jesus bothered becoming a Messiah when he had a chance to be a carpenter.
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All this factory manufacturing to the mm hype is pretty pointless unless you have good workmanship with the erectors.
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You could stick frame it and cut out some of the costs of kit build like cranes etc. Not to mention the risks of handing £££££ upfront to a TF company.
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