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  1. You just pressurised the house pipework most likely. You need to follow the last instructions and do this again to find out if the vessel is RIP.
  2. Typing in my spare time, so to add that all these finger in the air designs are then backed up accordingly, after I submit what I want installed, and they (chosen commission agents or manufacturers) come back with green lights all the way, hence the SCOP of mid 5’s I mention above. You don’t actually need the numbers as the physics basically overrule in every case, x amount of heat loss requires the same to maintain 21°, so the heat pump will push that out as required. It shall take no more. As long as you’ve not oversized then pipe centres are pretty much as you please, I’ve done 100mm cc and @JohnMo has his sending postcards to each other, one with a buffer and his without, both performing extremely well / efficiently etc.
  3. Usually just proper duct tape, much as that may feel to be a bodge it isn't. Some duct will require a female adaptor, so the duct can slide inside, and others vice-versa, so you'll need to get exact sizes and compare the products internal and external dimensions to be sure Jack will fit into Jill.
  4. You won't really have any option tbf, and the EPS is far friendlier to make a trough into. Then you have zero requirement for cutting or faffing with the PIR, which is a PITA to do. This is what happens when you are left in a room on your own with excess time, to start imagining things which are just never going to actually happen....... Snap out of it!!!! Conduit or duct for cables, yes, and I do these with 32mm or 40mm waste pipe, with a pair of 45's each end to soften the bend radii. 10mm T&E will zoom down a 32mm pipe (duct) with ease if it's from the kitchen wall to the island for eg, but don't expect to run this all the way back to the consumer unit!
  5. Nope! This is wrong. The taps needed to be left open for the entire duration, so the bladder in the vessel was at its relaxed state. The pre-charge pressure expands the bladder like a balloon, so if you look into the open end of a brand new unit, you'll be able to poke your finger in and feel the bladder pressing up against where the water enters. What you do is open the hot taps and leave then open to fully deplete any pressure in the hot cylinder, then keep pumping until one of two things happens; a) you get the pressure to begin to rise, and you keep going to the required pressure (3 bar for eg), or b) you just keep pumping and the pressure doesn't ever get there. a) means you've been successful, so get yourself off to the pub. b) means the pubs out, as you need the money for a new vessel. You do NOT take the reading off the vessel when the cold mains is on.
  6. MCS means that most who GAF are hands-tied by the forms they have to fill out and that they then have to take ownership of.
  7. 5kw will suffice, just will take a bit longer to fully recover a depleted hot water cylinder. If you plan on solar PV > diversion > immersion, or cheap rate grid > immersion then less of a worry. DHW just takes an age to heat up off at <5kw, especially if you've a larger home and use a lot of DHW. Factor in icing and defrosting, and then you're getting very close to 'undesirable' performance under duress.
  8. Why are you ducting these? Just lay the 2 pipes in the lower layer of insulation, cutting notches out that allow for the pipes to be wrapped in 9mm wall insulation, and simplify! Your reputable installers are talking out of their b'ttoms. The hot feed will warm the cold feed, so when you open the cold tap it'll go tepid cold > warm > then properly cold again. Defo cannot and should not be able to interfere with each other; basic uk regs say the hot should always run over the top of the cold when clipping feeds around a property, so rising residual heat cannot affect the cold feeds, basic good practice for as far back as I can remember. These pipes have appx ZERO insulative qualities. Bonkers statement. No need for barrier / additional expense.
  9. DHW capacity needs to be discussed properly too, as most will put a smaller cylinder in than is advisable which limits your capacity to store cheap rate electricity (or excess PV generation) as hot water.
  10. For the majority, perhaps, as they're heavily bound by commercial worries; not many clients will pony up money for any kind of review / discussions / etc, so a rubber stamp is lifted and struck down onto the paper and barely any of these are available to gather evidence or 12 month seasonal feedback from (so we don't know what the masses are doing). Last couple I've done have been not much more than a finger in the air (a finger connected to a body and a brain that's been heating homes for over 30 years) and one we dialled into recently is at a SCOP of mid 5's. In a truly well insulated, well air tightened, MVHR featured build with excellent fenestration etc, then the outdoor temp has just so little to do with the interior temps it's barely worth considering. The main effect is the heat pump changing how it runs to suit the temp of the air it is extracting heat energy from. I've been in these properties over xmas with plasterers screaming at me to turn off the heating as the indoor temps are mid 20's and the plaster is going off too fast. Then I go show them the UFH pipes sticking out of the floor, zero manifold, and say to them "the heating isn't on mate". Then they ask how TF is the house so hot. I say it's from body heat, work lights, and solar gain. Completely agree that poor performing individuals are the cause of the problem, so, as said, choose a good consultant to guide you through the varying offerings out there, or get installers with very good reptations and proof of it, or fly solo and roll the dice. Bottom line is that each instance is completely unique, with the clients needing to be part of the equation (often just ignored), and the process needs to be far more holistic than it is; insulation, MVHR, airtightness, fenestration etc all play huge parts in arriving at a successful system design, and the way it then functions to suit the occupants, not just the basics that MCS asks for. The typical approach from most is very rudimentary at best.
  11. How can this be true? If there’s no spares then you’ve zero other choice? Y branch cut in to existing run, a single socket 135° bend into that, and take the branch off to pick up the ACO. Standard practice tbf, and even if you did this with a foul connection it would still work perfectly well.
  12. It won’t end up overheating if they turn the flow temp to a couple of degrees over the room stat set point. Can’t happen. I’ve been around enough of these types of projects to know this isn’t an issue, just lots of people like the complex math behind it all and then still just come up with the same conclusion. This really isn’t rocket science at all tbh, any any seasoned (and directly experienced) M&E consultant or ‘heating engineer’ (not the ones on their mothers side) should be able to just look at this holistically and call it. If it’s going to be an MCS certified job then it’ll just be about ticks going into boxes, and then the system fettled afterwards to perform to suit the dwelling based on real life experience in the actual address, and the occupants feeding back to the installer after a full 12 months of occupancy. Tick boxes don’t take the occupants own quirks or preferences into account, imho these are the most important factor but often get overlooked.
  13. It's whatever someone (usually a salesperson) can convince someone else of what it is. A client (spoiled brat 2nd wife of a wealthy old chap) bought an £1800 vanity unit (no basin and no tap) and a £400 extension drawer set to go on the end. 15mm chipboard, and probably £200 of materials / soft close drawer runners / labour involved. By the time there was a sink on top and a tap, the 'sink' had cost near to £4k. Just picking the drawer front up broke the corner off it, terrible design where the mouth of the unit and the drawer front were 45'd and then became ultra thin on the leading edges. Thin vinyl veneer (black) and light chipboard, so any chip or mark was instantly visible. Utter dogshit, and I've bought better off eBay for a 1/5th of the price. Said brat was told by the salesman that is was a high spec blah blah, and she told her new husband to stump up or life would be hellish. After a bit more shopping she'd blown nearly £18k on a bathroom suite and enough tiles to do 1/3 of the walls and floor. Most of it was available online for prob half the price or less, but she wanted the retail therapy and putting on a pedestal, so off they went to be robbed blind in broad daylight with a huge smile on (her) face. The other side of the coin is my sensible clients who want value for money, but not "cheap", so when I explain higher spec systems that come in more expensive than other quotes they have had independently, from their own due diligence, they see where the extra money has gone and appreciate the improvements in quality / longevity / comfort / etc and are then happy to pay the uplift between my quote and the ones they have; most systems are bean-counted to be competitive, so are quite vanilla in terms of initial offerings as most know they're competing against others who have priced off the same plans. The 3rd side of the coin is the minority who ignore my advice and reasoning, go for cheap as they are insistent they have done their own investigations (with no industry experience or actual real life knowledge) and then complain when the uninformed choices they made have backfired and cost more / delivered less etc. To these people who think they know better, I say "fill yer boots".....no skin off my nose!
  14. Shouldn't they be providing input? If they can't you need better installers!?!
  15. https://www.screwfix.com/p/manrose-round-central-reducer-white-125-100mm/10684 You can buy duct tape, or get the large jubilee clips. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kair-Metal-Hose-Clip-125mm/dp/B07ZPGVH4L/ref=asc_df_B07ZPGVH4L?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=79989677905430&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=42064&hvtargid=pla-4583589145554366&msclkid=eb0a5ca7b18819f05a0835004d2084ce&th=1
  16. My 5.5L V8 GLS 63 makes the same wonderful noise and is a lot quicker than 6.6 secs. Surprising that's as slow as it is for a hybrid, but I bet it's dialled down in the factory and is capable of much quicker; I expect they stop utter and outright abuse of the battery and drive train to promote longevity and reduce early failure etc.
  17. I doubt you'll be able to use that much insulation with a screed. You'll be removing a lot of volume of screed and by the look of where you pinch points are, you'll likely just have to leave them uninsulated. It won't matter one little tiny bit btw, so my advice is to step away from micro-managing this to death and accept that the flow temps will simply be so low you won't even know the UFH is on . If you have any pre(mis)conception of having hot sections of floor where the pipes group together, then you're going to be proven pleasantly wrong, as it just doesn't. Losing such large volumes of screed at very localised areas, especially at entrances to rooms etc, will be a bad idea and is something I actively avoid, so the way the pipes are bunched up are a bit daft and not how I'd lay it out. Living room should be fed from the utility and the pipes for those two loops taken under the partition stud wall, as that deletes 4 pipes from the first lot of congestion. Yes, people "frown" on pipes going under partitions, but the reality is zero ill effect as you're stuck to this project like velcro and can mitigate against any misadventure. Entrance hall needs to be completely reconfigured, that's just silly. Pipes can then be spaced equidistantly in the double doorway leading into the kitchen / open plan room. Close, but no cigar I'm afriad.
  18. Modern plastic aka push fit pipe just doesn’t suffer like copper does regarding condensation. Quite an odd thing.
  19. Ya. Less material = lower production costs.
  20. Yup, but the materials now. A good few have refused temporary disabled access ‘ramps’ but I think you’d be ok with compacted type1 and some pavers either side. Will be there a while I guess.
  21. Probably failed, so it won’t hold the pressure your putting in. Are you 100% sure you’re getting air into it? I assume you know the cold mains needs to be off and at least one hot tap open to do this?
  22. That, and to reduce the amount of material used in manufacture, to bean-count.
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