Demolishing a 220m2 timber cattery ?

[flanagaj]

About to offer on a plot that was a cattery business.  Currently covers 220m2 of timber / construction.

 

 

But I literally have zero idea what I am going to spend to have this demolished.  I understand wood waste disposal has changed from Sept 2023 and as a result, not sure this can be disposed of in a conventional skip.  Should I budget 10k - 20k for having this all removed? 

 

 

[nod]

Depending on the condition 

You may get someone who will want part of it or all of it for free 

Advertise it online 

If your left with a concrete base 

Your digger will make fast work of it when you start your build and use it on site 

[flanagaj]

7 minutes ago, nod said:

Depending on the condition 

You may get someone who will want part of it or all of it for free 

Advertise it online 

If your left with a concrete base 

Your digger will make fast work of it when you start your build and use it on site 

I did wonder whether that might be an option.  Much better if it could be recycled and reused by somebody, rather than it just being destroyed.

[Gone West]

9 hours ago, flanagaj said:

But I literally have zero idea what I am going to spend to have this demolished.

We dismantled a timber frame bungalow and all the timber was taken via Freecycle and Freegle.

[flanagaj]

3 minutes ago, Gone West said:

We dismantled a timber frame bungalow and all the timber was taken via Freecycle and Freegle.

Thanks.  So my worry of 10 - 20k has been somewhat alleviated

[SteamyTea]

 

  

9 hours ago, nod said:

Your digger will make fast work of it when you start your build and use it on site 

Where is all the cat shit buried?

Edited February 12, 2024 by SteamyTea

[flanagaj]

4 hours ago, SteamyTea said:

 

  

Where is all the cat shit buried?

 

Haha.  That's the first thing my wife said.

[SteamyTea]

1 hour ago, flanagaj said:

 

Haha.  That's the first thing my wife said.

You're lucky to have a wife that is happy to shop at Poundland.

[Canski]

If this is where I think it is ( begins with L ) my demo guy would be interested in getting rid of it. He was half the price of other contractors that we approached. 

[flanagaj]

So we found someone who wanted the Cattery pen and they’ve now been taken away.  We now have lots of roofing felt, plasterboard, loft insulation, old treated wood and am now not sure how to get rid of it, as it’s not accepted in a general skip.

 

I don’t want to take it to my local recycling centre, as it’s too much of a ball ache.

[Dave Jones]

morning with a 5 ton digger, burn the lot and fish out the metal for scrap after.

[flanagaj]

6 minutes ago, Dave Jones said:

morning with a 5 ton digger, burn the lot and fish out the metal for scrap after.

Not sure I can burn the felt 😂

[Dave Jones]

2 minutes ago, flanagaj said:

Not sure I can burn the felt 😂

 

cant put in in skips either. right pain

[flanagaj]

Result!!

 

We managed to sell the Cattery for 2.5k and I spent 5 days partly dismantling it, before the buyers dismantled the rest.  They left it a bomb site and even changed the code on the combination lock so we couldn’t get onto our land!  I then took three days off and fully cleared the site.  So I’m well chuffed that what could have cost a large amount of money actually left us +£1200 in credit after I deduct two 10 yard skips and a 4 yard plasterboard skip.

 

 

[flanagaj]

Can anyone advise as to whether a 5 tonne excavator with a pecker will be notably quicker to break up the slab (100mm thick) than a 3 tonne one.  I also have no idea as to whether it's a 1 day or 5 day job.  There's in the region of 260m2 to break up and move to the site entrance for grab collection.  If it's not reinforced, I am planning on hiring a crusher and to reuse it for the build.

[markc]

If you need to move the material any distance then you really need a dumper with the machine or a “JCB” (backhoe) to break it up then use the bucket to move it.

difference between 3 and 5 tonner would be negligible, while you are paying the extra transport an 8t machine would be the better option. Unless the slab is thick or reinforced then you probably don’t need a pecker, especially with a JCB type machine as it will pull up the slab in chunks

[ProDave]

If the site entrance is where the Heras fence is at the right of the last picture, then surely you would want a lot of it to remain as a site road?

 

If not start breaking it furthest from the entrance and you have the "concrete road" there to push the first batch of rubble to the entrance with the diggers dozer blade.  Then keep working your way to the entrance.

 

Not the larger diggers might not have a dozer blade, something to check.

 

I moved about 100 tons of soil around my site just pushing it with the dozer blade then digging it into a nice pile at the destination.

[flanagaj]

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start breaking it furthest from the entrance and you have the "concrete road" there to push the first batch of rubble to the entrance

 

Clever idea!!  If in the event, it is reinforced and I cannot crush it for reuse, I can just pile it all up at the driveway end and the grab lorry can just reverse in and load it up.

[Russell griffiths]

Think of all the other jobs you can do

get a machine for the week and get all the hedges out and tree stumps and other shite. 

[scottishjohn]

8 hours ago, flanagaj said:

Can anyone advise as to whether a 5 tonne excavator with a pecker will be notably quicker to break up the slab (100mm thick) than a 3 tonne one.  I also have no idea as to whether it's a 1 day or 5 day job.  There's in the region of 260m2 to break up and move to the site entrance for grab collection.  If it's not reinforced, I am planning on hiring a crusher and to reuse it for the build.

If its 100mm thick then probaly no rebar so a 3tonner will murder it ,probaly with out a pecker

start lifting it and see it break ,then do same to next bit ,prop one end of that bit onlast one and break into  smaller lumps.

 how much of it is there .cos it you need hardcore then maybe rent a conrete crusher and make your own sub base or road   stone --savess on skip and you something usable

[Conor]

8 hours ago, flanagaj said:

Can anyone advise as to whether a 5 tonne excavator with a pecker will be notably quicker to break up the slab (100mm thick) than a 3 tonne one.  I also have no idea as to whether it's a 1 day or 5 day job.  There's in the region of 260m2 to break up and move to the site entrance for grab collection.  If it's not reinforced, I am planning on hiring a crusher and to reuse it for the build.

From hiring many machines over the last four years, bigger is always better. 5t would be my choice. The bigger bucket will make cleaning up faster.

[scottishjohn]

49 minutes ago, Conor said:

From hiring many machines over the last four years, bigger is always better. 5t would be my choice. The bigger bucket will make cleaning up faster.

would not disagree with you -- depending on price to hire and transport it and how tight the site is .

a 3ton can be by a large van and trailer or small truck and trailer  --5ton no way 

 also depends what else he has to do after removing catery .

If buying you can get a bigger one relative cheaper than a small one --

Edited August 28, 2024 by scottishjohn

[flanagaj]

given there are hedges and tree roots to also rip out, hiring for a week is what I was planning.  The difference in price between a 3 day hire and a week is not much, so makes sense.  I'm struggling to find a 5T as most places are a 3T with a one tonne dumper.

[scottishjohn]

3 hours ago, flanagaj said:

given there are hedges and tree roots to also rip out, hiring for a week is what I was planning.  The difference in price between a 3 day hire and a week is not much, so makes sense.  I'm struggling to find a 5T as most places are a 3T with a one tonne dumper.

1ton dumper don,t hold much  lots of trips

[Bozza]

If first time with a digger deffo a week.  Don’t go near the foundations or big roots until you’ve spent a day on lighter work and getting use to the machine and its controls.  Spend first day playing just shifting light soil a-b and back, and driving around your site.
 

if you go straight in at heavy work you’re at risk of toppling the digger.  Diggers are brilliant fun but take your time and ensure you take breaks the hours rack up quickly when you’re having fun.   It’s surprising though how decent an operator you can become after a few days.  
 

with big roots dig around them before trying to pull them out would be my tip.  Depending on your plot size  do you have anywhere you could dig down and bury the concrete, or build up land with it.