ToughButterCup Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Proper little head-slapper this one - have a look at this...... The valve assembly has been removed. It sticks out about 20mm below the ceiling. In the photo, there's about 10mm between the top of the fridge door and the ceiling. A mate popped round and when he stopped laughing, he suggested that it would be 'better' to sink the inlet into the ceiling by 12mm than Re-positioning the entire valve assembly about 500mm away from edge of the open door. (Like this) What he meant was 'You'll make a cock up of moving the whole thing easier than' ... doing this Cut the grey inlet pipe back by 12mm or so (Dremel with a cutting wheel) Cut the PB hole bigger (168mm o/a) so the 'flange' recesses into the ceiling If I do follow his idea, I'm wondering how on earth to make the cut edge of the PB look really neat - and perfectly circular. Worse, I'm wondering what I haven't thought of as a potential problem. Of course I could arrange to do the job when he comes round and make him own the follow-on problems...... Ideas? Warnings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 only thing I can think of is being wary of the amount of ducting available to move it. I doubt there's any spare to pull it further so you'd have to move it along the length of the ducting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonner Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Thought I had seen an air valve with a flat flange, 2mm or so thick … but can’t find it atm. Could you not trim your valve flange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Is it an illusion or is the black pipe protruding i trim them all flush to the plasterboard then a vent shouldn’t stick down more than 10-12mm. Edited December 31, 2022 by Russell griffiths 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 I have never seen a built in fridge door coming that close the the ceiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Recess the vent - much the most likely to work and simplest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 3D print a custom plastic piece to recess it and look neat. You sketch it, I'll print it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 👍👌. Yer a star.Thank you Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Onoff said: 3D print a custom plastic piece to recess it and look neat. You sketch it, I'll print it. I've not managed to sit down and learn 3D modelling just yet! I get all my stuff to print from Thingiverse. I've been lucky so far in that I've found models for what I've needed but no doubt the time will come when I can't find what I want and I'll have to model my own. without wanting to de-rail this thread.....any tips on learning 3D modelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Flush mounted ..? https://www.blauberg.co.uk/en/ceiling-mounted-vent-grille-adjustable-ventilation-diffuser-extract-air-white 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) @ToughButterCup we’ve got valves that are relatively flush, not sure if they’re less than 10mm though. When I get home on Tuesday I’ll measure it and see, if you haven’t come up with a solution by then. *** @ToughButterCup nope, sorry. Well over 10mm depth to our ceiling valves. *** Edited January 3, 2023 by Russdl Update 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Thorfun said: I've not managed to sit down and learn 3D modelling just yet! I get all my stuff to print from Thingiverse. I've been lucky so far in that I've found models for what I've needed but no doubt the time will come when I can't find what I want and I'll have to model my own. without wanting to de-rail this thread.....any tips on learning 3D modelling? Fusion 360 seems to be the place to start if new to it all. My lad uses it and is a dab hand. I believe it is getting more restrictive as time goes on, with features being removed. No doubt heading to a fully paid for platform! I still use AutoCAD as I'm old! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 I like Fusion 360 and they still have a decent free personal license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Temp said: I like Fusion 360 and they still have a decent free personal license. I keep meaning to try it myself. Old dog / new tricks etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Thorfun said: I've not managed to sit down and learn 3D modelling just yet! I get all my stuff to print from Thingiverse. I've been lucky so far in that I've found models for what I've needed but no doubt the time will come when I can't find what I want and I'll have to model my own. without wanting to de-rail this thread.....any tips on learning 3D modelling? Can you write code, as in program in C or similar? For some applications OpenSCAD can be more intuitive for coders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 8 hours ago, ToughButterCup said: A mate popped round and when he stopped laughing, he suggested that it would be 'better' to sink the inlet into the ceiling by 12mm than Re-positioning the entire valve assembly about 500mm away from edge of the open door. I always like to see a spot of Frenching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Radian said: Can you write code, as in program in C or similar? For some applications OpenSCAD can be more intuitive for coders. never learnt C. did a bit of Objective-C before Apple moved to Swift. and have done some Python and Perl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Onoff said: Fusion 360 seems to be the place to start if new to it all. My lad uses it and is a dab hand. I believe it is getting more restrictive as time goes on, with features being removed. No doubt heading to a fully paid for platform! I quite like OnShape this is very like solidworks in interface terms but is browser based and more than fast enough, it also has full collaboration features so several designers can work on the same drawing / part / assembly at the same time. The free version, marketed for the maker community, has only one limitation in that every part you draw is open for others to work with (not shared). It creates all the standard file types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Thorfun said: never learnt C. did a bit of Objective-C before Apple moved to Swift. and have done some Python and Perl. Parametric CAD might suit you then. Often I start with a bunch of dimensions and think of the part I want in a simple modular fashion. This is when I reach for OpenSCAD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 TinkerCAD is easy to use and exports directly for 3D printing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 FreeCAD can be handy. I use occasionally to simply open a drawing and save in another format. Fusion 360 is now charging to save as .DWG or . DXF. You end up using a program and thinking b'stards! 😠 A lot of people became reliant on Draftsight then they went to a paid for only platform. Expect anything popular & free to eventually go the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 50 minutes ago, Onoff said: Expect anything popular & free to eventually go the same way. Unless developed by an online community on github - like OpenSCAD and KiCad etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Radian said: Unless developed by an online community on github - like OpenSCAD and KiCad etc. Tbh if I could get AutoCAD to work on Linux I'd ditch Windows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuftythesquirrel Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Onoff said: FreeCAD can be handy. I use occasionally to simply open a drawing and save in another format. Fusion 360 is now charging to save as .DWG or . DXF. You end up using a program and thinking b'stards! 😠 A lot of people became reliant on Draftsight then they went to a paid for only platform. Expect anything popular & free to eventually go the same way. Ha, yes I was a Draftsight convert and believed all the hype about it being your product and free - then they went to paid platform only 🥵 Now moved to NanoCAD 5, it quite old but stable and free, can't tell much difference between this and my old Draftsight or 2D Autocad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Radian said: I always like to see a spot of Frenching Frenching an air inlet eh? Now there's a job for @SteamyTea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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