Nickfromwales Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Thorfun said: I might get 3 and change that 92.5° bend with access point to a 135° branch as you previously suggested you'd do differently. Nope. Leave well alone. The outlet of that replacement branch which would take a rodding / cleaning eye would be up against that rigid MVHR duct, so a pointless adaptation with worse results AFAIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Nope. Leave well alone. The outlet of that replacement branch which would take a rodding / cleaning eye would be up against that rigid MVHR duct, so a pointless adaptation with worse results AFAIC. indeed! I went out and had another look this morning and you're spot on here. am definitely leaving that alone. thanks for your help so far. I will post pictures of the fixes you've recommended for critique later. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Thorfun said: indeed! I went out and had another look this morning and you're spot on here. am definitely leaving that alone. thanks for your help so far. I will post pictures of the fixes you've recommended for critique later. 😉 I’ll get my red marker pen ready……..👀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: I’ll get my red marker pen ready……..👀 right! I've finished my homework @Nickfromwales. but it has thrown up another issue but I'll get to that in a bit. and with annotation in case it's not obvious does this work? and, the problem it has now brought up is the pipe coming from the other room in the basement doesn't line up with the second 135° branch now. so I've had to put two 15° bends before the 45° into the 135° branch to get it to line up. and from above is that ok to do that? or should I be drilling a new hole in the wall to get it to line up without bends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 It’s fine. Much better than the previous splat and stop arrangement If this is your first crack at soil pipe runs, then you’ve just beaten the “30 years in the game” fcuk-ups laid by my current clients ( now since discharged ) builder Looks like a first year apprentice laid them. Whilst hungover, then realised what a bag of shit it all was, and then hurriedly back-filled it all without informing the BCO ( as it first needed inspecting by them!?!? ). You’re doing very well. I’d put the 2x 15’s at the wall end, so the highest velocity pushes through those, and then the flow through the 45 & 135 will be far smoother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: You’re doing very well. thank you. ☺️ although sometimes it doesn't feel that way! 5 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: I’d put the 2x 15’s at the wall end, so the highest velocity pushes through those, and then the flow through the 45 & 135 will be far smoother. consider it done.....well....on Sunday that is as tomorrow is a day off for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Just tell me that the band is temporary ;). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Just tell me that the band is temporary ;). of course it is, I'm not that big a cowboy! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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saveasteading Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 14/10/2022 at 00:56, andyscotland said: think underground pipe is not UV resistant and the colour is to mark that Correct. It becomes a lighter colour, harder and brittle in daylight esp sun, over 2 of 3 years. I think brown is just a cheap default colour, and grey is more expensive to make but more attractive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyscotland Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Thorfun said: 8 hours ago, Thorfun said: Looks like a pretty good log flume to me, you should charge entry 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, andyscotland said: Looks like a pretty good log flume to me, you should charge entry 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Onoff said: Same as swimming in the Cornish sea after a small shower. Rained yesterday, today, there were so many swimmers that they used up 2 parking spaces for their clobber. Still, tomorrow it will be empty, like their bowels, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 question time..... as I get ready to pressure test each section of pipe I'm wondering how I plug a solvent weld boss hole in a non-permanent way? I have bungs for the 110mm pipes and push fit caps but I can't obviously push-fit in to the solvent weld bosses. I'm wondering if there's a rubber bung like we all used to use in chemistry test tubes that'll do the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Thorfun said: question time..... as I get ready to pressure test each section of pipe I'm wondering how I plug a solvent weld boss hole in a non-permanent way? I have bungs for the 110mm pipes and push fit caps but I can't obviously push-fit in to the solvent weld bosses. I'm wondering if there's a rubber bung like we all used to use in chemistry test tubes that'll do the job? https://www.screwfix.com/p/bailey-94-110mm-drain-test-plug-2-pack/62513? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Onoff said: https://www.screwfix.com/p/bailey-94-110mm-drain-test-plug-2-pack/62513? I have those. I'm talking about plugging one of these https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-push-fit-3-boss-single-socket-boss-pipe-grey-110mm/18246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, Thorfun said: I have those. I'm talking about plugging one of these https://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-push-fit-3-boss-single-socket-boss-pipe-grey-110mm/18246 https://www.bes.co.uk/drain-test-plug-1-1-2-40mm-1-2-test-point-15187/#more_product_options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: https://www.bes.co.uk/drain-test-plug-1-1-2-40mm-1-2-test-point-15187/#more_product_options lovely. thank you. the bosses on those are 60mm. should I get the 50mm ones or the 63mm ones? I presume the 50mm as it looks like they'll expand to fill up the 60mm hole? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) yeah, the 50mm one should do me I think. Edited October 15, 2022 by Thorfun image didn't show information I thought it did so I changed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Rubber insert and a cleaning eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) One of these With one of these shoved in Change of £5 Edited October 16, 2022 by Nickfromwales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: One of these With one of these shoved in Change of £5 damn! where were you yesterday when I spent £10 on the other things that are due for delivery on Tuesday! 😉 think I'll pick up a couple of your solution as well as I have to pop to near Toolstation today anyway. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 tomorrow's job is dealing with this bend and the run to join up with the other soil pipes. I can't find a long radius bend with access so I was thinking of using a rest bend and then in to a 135° branch with an access point on the branch? the other option is a 45° bend in to a 135° branch with the access point plugged in to the branch? the third option is the 92.5° bend with access point built in that I've used before? which is the best way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Thorfun said: which is the best way? Defo use the rest bend for a long radius return from vertical to horizontal, as there will be a lot of oomph needed to get the dolphins along the straight horizontal run and out to sea. Have that rest bend going immediately into a 135 Y branch, with the branch off to whichever side is open for access, with the branch not flat but just set up maybe 15o to ensure nothing gets left to sit in the internal ‘mouth’ of the branch. Into that unused branch outlet you then install a 110mm rodding access cap. If you ever need to ‘empty out’ you can just grab the branch and rotate it to get the branch facing slightly downhill, then simply ask the most annoying relative / visitor you know to hold a large bucket whilst you shout instructions, telling them how many more turns on the cap before the magic happens etc. You could make like easier by doing all of this in 150mm, if you’re going to use 150mm for the horizontal run? That way, the friend or relative can get their forearm in to manually grab any problematic item. 👍 Edited October 16, 2022 by Nickfromwales 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 33 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Defo use the rest bend for a long radius return from vertical to horizontal, as there will be a lot of oomph needed to get the dolphins along the straight horizontal run and out to sea. Have that rest bend going immediately into a 135 Y branch, with the branch off to whichever side is open for access, with the branch not flat but just set up maybe 15o to ensure nothing gets left to sit in the internal ‘mouth’ of the branch. Into that unused branch outlet you then install a 110mm rodding access cap. If you ever need to ‘empty out’ you can just grab the branch and rotate it to get the branch facing slightly downhill, then simply ask the most annoying relative / visitor you know to hold a large bucket whilst you shout instructions, telling them how many more turns on the cap before the magic happens etc. You could make like easier by doing all of this in 150mm, if you’re going to use 150mm for the horizontal run? That way, the friend or relative can get their forearm in to manually grab any problematic item. 👍 This is the solution I’d decided on and bought a rest bend when I was out earlier. I’m very glad to have it confirmed as the right thing to do! I’m not going to do the horizontal in 150mm though. I’ll stick with 110mm. I presume that’s fine? It’ll have to end up at 110mm anyway to join the other 2 branches. this, along with testing each of the 3 runs individually, is tomorrow’s job! I’ll update the thread with photos. 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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