nod Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Pictured a local timber merchants add Encouraging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 That’s very good - still high round here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I am showing my age. I remember paying £5 per sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, PeterW said: That’s very good - still high round here Yeah Peter Still very high around here also This is the first sign I’ve seen Prices quoted are a couple of quid more than five years ago when we start out first build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, ProDave said: I am showing my age. I remember paying £5 per sheet. Bloodyhell ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, nod said: Pictured a local timber merchants Not sure about the prices round here as I never buy timber , but placed the order for all the different lengths and sizes of timber for our roof on Monday and received a call today to say its in the yard when can we deliver it, so availability is improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, nod said: Pictured a local timber merchants add Encouraging So are some very good prices, wish I could get some of those down in the south west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 As I’ve said previously A friend owns a steel yard I call in for a brew when I’m passing and he’s no stock He reckons if he stocked his yard to normal levels He could loose 100k overnight He reckons as soon as the price of steel starts to drop All the big wholesale companies will discount there stock to virtually cost Same will happen with timber Gypsum have jumped on the bandwagon with a planned 22% rise on metal framing Largely due to companies that use timber swapping over But they can just as easy swap back when timber prices fall 4% inflation by Christmas Government Free money ending this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, nod said: He reckons if he stocked his yard to normal levels He could loose 100k overnight He reckons as soon as the price of steel starts to drop All the big wholesale companies will discount there stock to virtually cost Same will happen with timber That is a really good insight and one I had never thought of for stock shortages, than no one wants to get stocked up for when the bubble bursts and are holding expensive product when the music stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowsgomoo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 A contractor we interviewed said we're following America in material prices and they're starting to gradually fall.... granted they don't have Brexit though. Is there any truth to this and will things get better in 2022? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotusBuild Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just had a steel fabrication quote for 3.6 tons of I-beam and column (albeit with some awkward joint angle) for £21,500+VAT. Glad I was sitting down when I read it. Needles to say awaiting other quotes for the work with trepidation and hoping the price of steel is on the way down, in which case I have the time to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, BotusBuild said: Just had a steel fabrication quote for 3.6 tons of I-beam and column (albeit with some awkward joint angle) for £21,500+VAT. Glad I was sitting down when I read it. Needles to say awaiting other quotes for the work with trepidation and hoping the price of steel is on the way down, in which case I have the time to wait. What? Nearly 6k/t that’s ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, markc said: 3.6 tons of I-beam and column I have access to a supplier's online costing guide, and so entered a 254 x 146 x 35 I beam for a price, for a full length of 8m £430 each. So coming out at £1,700/ton from that stockholder. That is for full lengths, and excludes delivery, so add for waste, cutting, priming ( but you can diy), and delivery. Of course there is no fabrication in there either. So your 3.6t is costing £6k at the gate. Add £15,000 for transport, some welding and a small new car!!! The supplier is nowhere near you , but someone else is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 20:42, nod said: Gypsum have jumped on the bandwagon with a planned 22% rise on metal framing Unbranded framing from CCF etc is perfectly good. It comes from a known UK manufacturer but doesn't attract the premium for the inked name on it. Consultants like to say ;all by BG or Knauff' because it keeps them in the clear, and is your money. All are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, saveasteading said: Unbranded framing from CCF etc is perfectly good. It comes from a known UK manufacturer but doesn't attract the premium for the inked name on it. Consultants like to say ;all by BG or Knauff' because it keeps them in the clear, and is your money. All I’ve an account at CCF Most of our mf comes from there Unfortunately the others will follow BG prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 In late response to a comment a few days ago, perhaps in another discussion: I once found that permanent metal shuttering (eg Holorib) was 30% cheaper in France than UK. Exactly the same product. Arranged for it to be obtained in France and delivered with another order by an intermediary continental supplier. Suddenly it was cancelled by the French company without comment other than it was not possible. I don't know how they found it was being exported, a loose comment probably, but they were certainly not allowing us to cut their massive on-cost. It was about £30,000 of material, so we didn't make the £10k saving, and they lost a sale as we changed the design to concrete planks. This was 10 years ago, so nothing to do with politics, but perhaps to do with 'agreements'. Tiles appear to double in price en route from Spain and Italy. I think it works the other way too. timber is silly expensive in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, nod said: Unfortunately the others will follow BG prices But still be cheaper than the branded stuff, so just pointing out to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, BotusBuild said: Just had a steel fabrication quote for 3.6 tons of I-beam and column (albeit with some awkward joint angle) for £21,500+VAT. Glad I was sitting down when I read it. Needles to say awaiting other quotes for the work with trepidation and hoping the price of steel is on the way down, in which case I have the time to wait. That is seriously (expletive deleted)ing loads, who is your supplier? Does that cost include erection? Drop me a PM to see if I can help out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, saveasteading said: The supplier is nowhere near you , but someone else is. @BotusBuildI know a fair few supplier in the south west I went through to get my steel and a decent steel fabricator who did a cranked pfc and I beam joints. That quote is mental!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 As I’ve said previously Steel will drop in price dramatically But if you need it now Your stuck with the inflated prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 the way wood prices have been going using load bearing galvanised sections might be soon cheaper that a TF house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amateur bob Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 how are things now looking for building a timber frame house in 2022? are costs on the way down or will it be better waiting to 2023? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Not good mate - still seeing TF companies falling over. A lot of people are moving over to brick & block so time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold9801 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 17:50, nod said: Pictured a local timber merchants add Encouraging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold9801 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 11mm osb in West Cornwall currently £19.75 + vat and that's for an order of 40! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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