canalsiderenovation Posted September 4, 2020 Author Posted September 4, 2020 On 04/09/2020 at 05:52, gc100 said: My electrician can supply a 8k. PV system for about £2k, plus a couple of days work (£360). This is trade prices with no markup Expand This seems really cheap even for trade. If I were to get trade prices for the materials alone for the system I want are still more than £2k.
canalsiderenovation Posted September 4, 2020 Author Posted September 4, 2020 Just wondering if the Solic200 is a good alternative to the Solariboost Immersion Controller? I've got a cheaper price but don't want naff products for the sake of saving a few quid....
dpmiller Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 iBoost is more configurable and can drive two loads, plus has the option of the Buddy remote display 1
Nickfromwales Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 On 04/09/2020 at 07:02, canalsiderenovation said: This seems really cheap even for trade. If I were to get trade prices for the materials alone for the system I want are still more than £2k. Expand IIRC, no MCS certificate means zero export payments. You’d be better off with a smaller array and self-consuming all you generate if you go ‘DIY’. 8kWp may be pointless unless you can store all excess on site; eg big cylinder.
ProDave Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 I self consume almost all that I generate. If I had qualified for export payments, I would have been paid less than £15 so far for export. How much extra would I have to have paid for an MCS system? How long would that small export payment take to pay that extra cost?
Nickfromwales Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 14:03, ProDave said: I self consume almost all that I generate. If I had qualified for export payments, I would have been paid less than £15 so far for export. How much extra would I have to have paid for an MCS system? How long would that small export payment take to pay that extra cost? Expand Point being, fit the right amount of PV if you’re not getting paid to spill over back to the grid. Agree on the uplift, but MCS is more than just getting paid, it’s insurance and diligence also, eg to ensure the array will perform admirably vs the effort / cost to install it
scottishjohn Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 I,m hoping ,maybe dreaming ,that by the time i get to building my house it might be viable to go totally off grid no problem with space for panels or battery storage and ?or stand by generator etc . last time i got a ballpark quote for power supply it was around 25K any big movements on battery pricing ?
ProDave Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 If you have not already done so, take a look at https://lifeattheendoftheroad.wordpress.com/ The guy that lives off grid at the north end of Raasay. What he does not know about off grid power is probably not worth knowing. 1
pdf27 Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 20:26, ProDave said: If you have not already done so, take a look at https://lifeattheendoftheroad.wordpress.com/ The guy that lives off grid at the north end of Raasay. What he does not know about off grid power is probably not worth knowing. Expand His current house was also designed from scratch to be off-grid, based on decades of experience of living off-grid at the time he designed it. It's a seriously impressive piece of work. He's on the Navitron forums as Camillitech - I'm pretty sure he's got full details of his build on there as well as his blog. 1
Onoff Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) On 05/09/2020 at 20:26, ProDave said: If you have not already done so, take a look at https://lifeattheendoftheroad.wordpress.com/ The guy that lives off grid at the north end of Raasay. What he does not know about off grid power is probably not worth knowing. Expand Does he consult? Might be worth @scottishjohn enquiring. Let's face it, his is a bit out of the ordinary what with the space, the quarry etc. As an aside I wonder if there's any mileage in water source heating via the quarry? Edited September 6, 2020 by Onoff
scottishjohn Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) On 06/09/2020 at 08:19, Onoff said: As an aside I wonder if there's any mileage in water source heating via the quarry? Expand If I was keeping the qaurry and building a house on a high plateau at the rear of it --then yes the lake is 20-30m deep --never freezes and a hydrologist has told me tha catchment of it is good for 5kw hydro . gshp on my house 300ft+ above it is a non starter as the insulated piping required is over £100 a meter . next your going have me using a solar pv to pump water up from lake to a holding pond + excess water from my water supply in most times of the year and then use hydro with 300ft drop to make power at night . I certainly can accommodate someone if the buy they quarry and want to do that Edited September 6, 2020 by scottishjohn 1
ProDave Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 Ah ha yes, your own solar PV powered pumped storage system. @Onoff will come and install it for you,
SteamyTea Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 On 05/09/2020 at 14:57, Nickfromwales said: but MCS is more than just getting paid, it’s insurance and diligence also, eg to ensure the array will perform admirably vs the effort / cost to install it Expand Been arguing that very point for years, but it falls on deaf ears. On 05/09/2020 at 20:13, scottishjohn said: last time i got a ballpark quote for power supply it was around 25K any big movements on battery pricing ? Expand Price up a generator and the associated running costs, that then gives you a base price to work to when it comes to pricing batteries.
Nickfromwales Posted September 6, 2020 Posted September 6, 2020 On 06/09/2020 at 18:22, ProDave said: Ah ha yes, your own solar PV powered pumped storage system. @Onoff will come and install it for you, Expand AFTER he makes it first
gc100 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 I'm planing to move in and see what my consumption is throughout the day over a period before I decide exactly the amount of PV. I've got the ok for 8K system with the DNO but if I'm only using half of that I'll only purchase 4K for example. Pointless finically really at the moment given prices of storage or selling to grid, or I could do 8K and then offset my green footprint which I might well do.
DamonHD Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 On 07/09/2020 at 13:39, gc100 said: I'm planing to move in and see what my consumption is throughout the day over a period before I decide exactly the amount of PV. I've got the ok for 8K system with the DNO but if I'm only using half of that I'll only purchase 4K for example. Pointless finically really at the moment given prices of storage or selling to grid, or I could do 8K and then offset my green footprint which I might well do. Expand It should be a relatively cheap (and non-fake) offset to get as far towards zero or negative at home on energy as you can. You can always add storage later, but for now the GB grid doesn't have enough solar, so you're fully green without IMHO. Rgds Damon
SteamyTea Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 On 07/09/2020 at 13:39, gc100 said: could do 8K and then offset my green footprint which I might well do. Expand Does that mean you can drive a Range Rover, or have a bonfire every month.
gc100 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 On 07/09/2020 at 17:41, SteamyTea said: Does that mean you can drive a Range Rover, or have a bonfire every month. Expand That would be nice
pdf27 Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 On 08/09/2020 at 16:12, gc100 said: That would be nice Expand Burning a Range Rover every month is apt to get expensive though!
scottishjohn Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 On 08/09/2020 at 16:12, gc100 said: Expand sounds like the old joke "doctor i have broken my hand --will i be able to play the piano when its healed doctor--yes thats funny couldn,t play it before-- bbbum
Onoff Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 On 08/09/2020 at 18:37, pdf27 said: Burning a Range Rover every month is apt to get expensive though! Expand Satisfying though.
AliG Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 I'd like to know what investments your other half has access to. For £3-4k you get an index linked return of 7-10%. If you plan to move soonish then payback might be more relevant, but it isn't a bad return on the investment.
scottishjohn Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 On 08/09/2020 at 19:23, AliG said: For £3-4k you get an index linked return of 7-10%. Expand you mean a POSSIBLE not a gauranteed 7-10%----providing corvid don,t make everything crash when second wave hits
AliG Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 I am assuming the sun isn't going anywhere and electricity prices inflate over time so it is pretty much a guaranteed return. *prices may go up as well as down
scottishjohn Posted September 8, 2020 Posted September 8, 2020 On 08/09/2020 at 19:57, AliG said: I am assuming the sun isn't going anywhere and electricity prices inflate over time so it is pretty much a guaranteed return. *prices may go up as well as down Expand your definition of an investment is different to mine -normally you can cash in an investment - No invertors to go bang which totally upset all your careful calculations on pay back of a system I understand your comparison --but its not an investment ,its a choice of how to possibly save money by using diffrent tech -not something that earns money you could same savings by just turning down the heating and wearing a jumper . I am not anti PV -far from it --but don,t call it an investment please
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