Marvin

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Yes. Different works on the island.... However, only gone up in the last few days....

Isle of wight. 6 yard £295 up from 260

I never just chuck stuff in these days. Always have my circular saw and sledge hammer at the ready. Always pack it like a suitcase ready for a flight ✈ .

Well, phoned for a skip today. The price has gone up more than 10% since last year. Caused by a change in red diesel legislation and an increase in mixed skip rubbish disposal. Glad I only needed one.

.... using @TerryEs way of calculating the energy required to heat air.....

Sorry @Tom I miss understood. But whilst on the subject, for anyone else interested in MVHR's: I think the average temperature here, over the whole year is 7 C. The average temperature in our home is 21C day 19C night. Taking into consideration that when the temp is above 21C the place has to be cooled and energy will be used to cool the internal air and the MVHR will be used to recycle the cool, I wonder how much energy/ money it saves a year. Say three-quarters of the year of 10 degree temp change (some days about the same temp), based on @TerryEs figures, reduced to only 10C change of temperature would be a saving of about 17 kWh a day. Say 25p a kWh that’s about £4.25 a day, for half a year that's about £1,100 a year saving. The box was say 1200, the pipes and insulation say 1800 labour would have been about 1500 so about £4.5k If it was trickle vents on a cold windy winter's day... Ours is a 100m2 bungalow. Trickle vents on a 300m2 one would need more trickle vents so... M

Welcome. @hingerz Good to have knowledge on both sides. Working on my own home gave me great knowledge from working for others and how to overcome problems. However, I have learnt masses from the posts here, and been pleased with the gentle responses to my silly questions. (Questions I didn't realise were silly! In case your wondering).

Welcome. @CJT1963 I'm sure posters here will be helpful and hopefully we will also gain from your knowledge as well. Marvin

HI @Tom I beg to differ about the energy saving. For 100m2 ours runs at about 17Watts per hour. Call it 20watts times 24 hours a day. So half a kWh a day. During the winter we have witnessed the outside temperature of about 5C air, passing through our MVHR and the heat from the air being expelled, heat the outside air up to 19C before it enters the room at 30 litres a second. Someone who knows the maths will tell me how much energy saving there is on heating 108m3 of air from 5C to 19C per hour. I bet its not half a kWh per day! Thing is you don't see the heat your not using.

Certainly Rainfuel may aid production of electricity in the future but by reading the figures its going to be more expensive.

Impressive

It could be the design allows for a single story construction on the allotment side and a 2 story construction on the housing side.. With a big sloping roof...

Assuming the evidence supplied is not fake as in several recent situations.

I'm getting older, and prefer sockets that I plug into at a height where I don't fall down trying to reach them and that's why ours are between 450mm and 1200mm in our "forever home".

Unfortunately, even thinking, discussing or replying to this involves my baggage. We all have it. Manipulating the baggage is the key to control. I know this. Trump knows this. Putin knows this and so do the markets. The markets are run by greed and fear. (as we are) And back to @AliGs valid point: Electricity prices will go up and down related to the reasons above. (and in the long term rise). Talking about the relative price compared with previous years doesn't take into account the many different things we now have to shell out from our income, that we didn't then. Why oh why are we paying shareholders so we can drink water and have electricity..

Is this so the inside can be convert into habitable space?

Hi @SBMS However the opposite way would be interesting: Given all the details one could calculate what the energy use should be, however there could be 40 questions to answer.

= Supply and demand in simple terms.

Ok. The energy cost issue will be guided by supply and demand.

Hi @SBMS Sorry to say I've gone down this road before. The amount of variables are so many that extrapolating any information from combined results will not give you anything except the range of results, not the reason for the results. There are endless reasons for the same results from different setups and endless reasons for different results from the same setups. Probably 20 or 30 basic reasons.

Hi @oldkettle I apologise if you feel offended. That was not my intention. However, honestly the general public do not always make the right decision, and nor do the government. And now to Covid. I can only get covid from another human being (directly or indirectly) so I would appreciate it if people tried to protect me from the disease. I am not impressed when other people intentionally threaten my health and possibly my life.

This is true if the result only effects the person making the decision, otherwise you end up with someone who choose to instruct an army to kill lots of people, because they don't care if its good for them, and certainly don't care about you or I. There's a word for a person like this. Back to drink driving, I don't care if you die drink driving, as long as you don't harm other people. Unfortunately that is often not the case. So to protect the rest of us I suggest making it law that you can't drink and drive. Now who's pure evil?

That's why, in all honesty, people shouldn't be given a referendum option.

Hi @oldkettle In response to your thoughts: I'm glad I can still make people laugh. I did not take into account prices relative to income. Should I have done? Greed is neither good or bad but measured by how it is used. A bit like nuclear power. Sorry kWh of what exactly are we discussing? If its oil, I think at the start of this year it was a bit lower than now. (although we could also be talking about suger) so at the moment I am right. You may observe that Brian Kaplan's bets are all very precise, something this original question was not. Not wishing to be too padantic I would also point out that electric kWh price has risen this year but as all good ads used to say, the price may go up and/or down.