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Got Debbie making me our own sauerkraut now: proper job, gets yer teeth tingling

There's an interesting doctorate in here somewhere: The pathology of Self Build Stress; towards active coping mechanisms.

The sun and the cicadas have a way of switching you off......

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I'm not @joe90 Right, thanks, I'll get on with it. Now where's that @epsilonGreedy chap? He's full of beans at the moment. If you see him tell him to get his arse down here and do some work.

Yes Terry, you will. How about a little trip to Greece? That should put some more goodness into your system

Excellent. Good to be reminded about that bit of the build. Why not continue your holiday by choogling up the M6 and mixing some parge coat for me? When that's done there's... and there's... and after that ....

What is health? Its a series of things. I assume you too @epsilonGreedy heard, read that bit about fitness and manual labour. That hastily written article , is a summary based on a BJSM paper. Quoting directly from the source What are the new findings? We are the first to find evidence consistent with the physical activity paradox in a systematic review with meta-analysis, summarising evidence from 17 longitudinal studies with 1 93 696 participants. We showed that men engaging in high (compared with low) level occupational physical activity have a 18% increased risk of all-cause mortality, even after adjustment for relevant factors, such as leisure time physical activity. This evidence indicates that physical activity guidelines should differentiate between occupational and leisure time physical activity. http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2018/04/17/bjsports-2017-098540 (accessed May 2018) The study is based on other studies (meta analysis), and just before the conclusion the article includes this caveat Studies included in this review were based only on self-reports of occupational PA and all but one [...] used crude categories (with heterogeneous definitions) to operationalise occupational PA exposure. That is academic code for '... beware this might all be complete bollox...' It's based on self-reporting. And ( I am trying to be really fair about a weak piece of research ) the authors do say..... that they need to develop better measures in order to be more confident of their conclusions A weak piece of journalism based on a research paper that the researchers themselves say is weak. Go figure.

Either side of the Velux in our roof, is a doubled rafter. Have a look: There's a slight gap between them, one or two mm: not much, but enough to make me think that something needs to be done. One rafter has a slight twist in it.... Foam? Bolt? Screw? Ignore? Foam and bolt? Get a life?

Its the local tipple Their advertising campaign is ; once a week, a large bus took drinkers from one of their local pubs to the brewery show us the whole process put on a massive Lancashire hot pot let us drink as much Bomber as we like bus us home lock-in stagger home at 2 or 3 in the morning King brilliant. I used to go every year. I always had to have the following day off. Too old to survive that punishment now.

Used to ship drugs maybe?

My point is simple. @ultramods's proposal is generous: but massively difficult. If it were easy, the problem would have been solved years ago. BH isn't the only immensely valuable online Community of Practice: with messy data. I simply caution - the job of structuring that data is huge. I would hate someone to start such an enterprise without appreciating the difficulty of the task. You are right, @SteamyTea, nobody else is talking about a list of links either. If someone believes they could have a go at producing some form of synthesised structured information based on BH data (any BH member that is) they are free to do so. Where online it is published matters not a jot. Linking to the structured data is trivial.

OK @SteamyTea, go for it. Plenty of free web space available ...... develop your own content .... then link to it here..... Just like @Construction Channel has had the guts, persistence and skill to do.

There is no resistance from me @ultramods. Just caution about the size of the job and similar caution about it's specification.

Ed, not quite. I merely meant to suggest that in addition to the essential policing role played by moderators, some members (not necessarily moderators) might like to summarise, precis, derive checklists... But it takes time and effort. And all of us are really busy anyway - or if not, then knackered. @SteamyTea has it about right .... I mean a form of editing : clearing up the mess, making stuff easy to read, linking ideas, laying out jumbled thought into an easy to understand order.

I read @Onoff's bathroom fable as exactly that: even experienced guys get it wrong, get distracted, get it badly wrong, have wives who demonstrate the highest level of patience, teach me loads without knowing that they're doing so.....

Switch on, download, cook a meal, pop down the pub, comeback, restart. Put it in its place. Don't let it control you. Nay borra, Jimmie.

What is even harsher is that, after 40 years, his poor practice is still - to some - acceptable.

What a good idea. Needs unpacking a bit, hence: Solution to what (?) is my first unfiltered reaction...... Given the way that threads meander (think bathroom, think @Onoff ) the thread might be the solution to many readers' issues - but highly likely - not to the problem that was the one the OP had. So tagging that post solution might well mislead. I have invested a good deal of my professional life into trying to solve exactly the problem @ultramods raises. God knows it needs to be addressed. Just think of the prize of being able efficiently to drill down to key (for you) information ( or maybe data). Unfortunately (because it's expensive) the answer seems to be, at the moment, use-a-human. Would that it were not. Think of it like this. Ask a plumbing question. A Welsh plumber cuts through all the noise and messy conflicting information and answers. There's no hint of shared ignorance, no jokes, no asides, no errors of fact. Solution. But posts aren't like that are they? That's why it's such a relief to have technocrats like @TerryE, @JSHarris, @Onoff, @Construction Channel, @Nickfromwales, @PeterW and others who have technical authority on BH. But most of us here are or have become or are in the process of becoming experts by experience (what else do you call someone who has completed 6 self-builds , @Stones ? ) . If we could all do just a bit more tagging, stick to the topic just a little more, draft posts more carefully sometimes, then we would be well on the way to making readers' jobs easier and more efficient. 240 square meters of parging call.

Ah yes, data structures. The key to life. Dont'cha just love a beautifully normalised database? It's a huge undertaking. Huge. And people are here because they have a house to build. So they are prepared to put the leg work in to reading because it's mostly high-stakes stuff. Just one sentence saved me at least £10,000 . But it took a year to find it. Drilling down into messy data is a long-winded process. What you propose is useful, but extremely expensive in terms of time. Meanwhile the architect calls, the chippy asks, the brickie needs, the ironing remains, the dog needs walking. Thanks very much for the suggestion. I appreciate the keenness. Summarising key threads is hard enough. Simple precis is as far as I think anyone - who also has a build to finish - can take it.

Exactly.

She's set her heart on one already, and the roof's not on yet ?

Marry me, please, if it's that easy.

and I'd like to add ... wall face in relation to the prevailing wind and rain ?

Would that be one with a fine blade, or coarse?