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@Ian, @PeterStarck's answer is the one you need. And here's part of the explanation: the tiles have marks on them to ensure you leave an appropriate gap for ventilation

Ta Pete! Ian

Who says roofing doesn't pay? The retired roofer of my acquaintance turns up in his sleek drop-head Merc. Smelling of new leather, a spec of dust here and there, he daintily alights from his car. Rather like a catwalk model, he removes his shades (driving shades you understand, not the roofing shades he uses), puts them in their case, and changes from his bordello-ready driving shoes to his work boots. He's brought his retired mate along fer 't 'craik - laak. A small piece of carpet ( a sample piece) is dropped on the dusty drive, and the bordello-creepers are neatly dropped, side by side, in the exact middle of the carpet . Whassa matter? I ask: Had a bad day? Wodjer mean? Shoes, I say, pointing at them. They are pointing North - South and not East - West like the other roofers who visit here. A big grin. The piss-taking had started before he got to the scaffold . The next hour was going to be fun. Tha's got sum rewfin called Noooooluck, I 'ere. Nulok, I counter. Ya wut? Nulok, Jim. He reaches up to his forehead ostensibly to push his hair back. In reality, he switched his hearing aid on. His mate does the same. Now that, that's a real compliment. They are both listening - or attempting to. More than I get from the average teenager. So I dig the bits and bobs out and he looks at them. Wha's 'at grewve fer then? (top of the image) Dunno, mate says I. Then a gentle sucking sound: the old fogey's sucking his teeth clean, I conclude. Wha's 'at nick fer then? (bottom of the tile) Dunno, mate says I. 'Eeeer, sin this? Wha? The back of the tile does indeed have the word Happiness emblazoned on its surface. You couldn't make it up could ya? I mean, just imagine being the tool maker for the mould in which the tiles are made...... Oh, by the way , the customer wants you to engrave the letters H A P P I N E S S on the back of the mould. Ya wot? Yew avin' a laugh? If it had been me I would have been sorely tempted to change it slightly: but in present company I'd better not write it down. Just ask yourself: how would a French person tend to pronounce Happiness? ..... Remembering that they don't pronounce the letter H. On to the battens They're not messin' abart are they? Why metal? Dunno says I. Tha' dun't knaw much duz ya....... He has a point. And I've delved round 'tinternet for hours as you will suspect. After they both left (of which more in the next post) I came up with this Installation_manualUSA.pdf Something new to get my DIY head into. The current Nulok videos are for advertising purpose, I think. As they left, because the roof of the car was down (they must both have had fond memories of when they were on the pull, I think) I noticed them both surreptitiously switching their hearing aids off. Bless them. Here's looking forward to their return. Installation_manualUSA.pdf

Have a look at this. Just about finished insulating between the rafters, and putting on the counter-battens. There are bits and bats of foam in the 50mm ventilation gap. Do I need to trim the foam flush with the top of the PIR? Thanks in advance. Ian

What an excellent idea. I am working on the roof above the Winter Garden today. That would mean reaching down four meters to retrieve a dropped screw. My back now wishes I had bought a first fix nailer.

Ah... good idea....

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Nope. The stalks aren't long enough. The other factors is that I have a devoted partner who de-stalks cherries for me before serving them on a silver platter. In relation to the image: I have a nice little 12 volt Bosch impact drill that fits neatly into one of the pouches.

Fear of that made me put the heads of the screws in my mouth. I recon I can tell the screw head type with my tongue ?

Got a nail bag, but it is a lot faster if I put about five in my mouth and four in my hand, and one being driven. Ibuprofen dose by 10:30 I suppose... ?

..... can you hold in your mouth while screwing your battens down? Please God nothing makes me look up and so swallow a few. ?

I have now built up the verge to the correct height. The plan calls for top of the verge to be insulated with 25mm of PIR. My question is: how best can I fix that insulation in place ? The answer - I think - is to nail or screw a strip to the inside edges of the gap, trapping the PIR in place. I will then felt over the top of that. This is what the verge looks like now..... The blue battens are the counter-battens. I recon I will have something like 40mm (25mm of counter-batten and about 20mm of rafter) to accommodate the fixing (a normal batten on its edge?) which holds the PIR in place. I'd then foam the edges to seal any little gaps. A mate of mine told me he would just cut the PIR into shape and then simply tack-nail the it in place .... Hmmmmm. What do you think?

You're overthinking it....? You have no idea how good it is for me to be able to write that. Overthinking is good: the worry that attaches to it isn't.

I'm half German, half Jock, and we'll on my way to becoming Italian by working practice. Up at 5, out by 6 , hard at it by 6.15; brief lunch. Knock off at 2 Siesta baby. Mmmmm Hmmmm! Back out by 6, fiddle and fuss work, make-do and mend. Why? Roofing in 35+ The foil does a fairly good job on re-directing the sun's rays - specially the ones that missed my face first time round.

Grrrrrr. ? Got someone arriving today to fix a wall plate to our steels. Ordered the appropriate Forgefix TechFast Timber to Steel screws (for delivery Tuesday last) and got the ... "We are working with our partners and others to fulfill this order bollox...." Screwys, Toolstation and local suppliers - Never ' erd o' them mert ' Reliable online supplier of fastenings known to anyone?

Why didn't I think of that now.......? Fanks. Ian

Sooner rather than later, eh? You know it makes sense.....?

Welcome Leslie Do tell us.... which door and window issues do you face? I could bore you with my issues, but they wouldn't be anything like as interesting as yours.

Excellentel Tennente! General quick-fixit stuff. Vice, light, extension, base for a worksite saw, storage for the Bosch beat box, somewhere to hit summat on Got me thinking....

I would like to make myself a nice little easily moveable (draggable) workbench. One which will cope with the rough loose smallish stones that lie everywhere outside. The design of the workbench isn't my concern I need some casters (wheels?) that'll cope the loose bits of MoT1. Ideas?

Here's chapter and verse; Approved Document H You also need to follow the General Binding Rules. - and all for free (That'll please @ProDave ) Normal soil pipe parts are widely available. (Just imagine if they weren't!)

Meanwhile, back on topic...... Thanks @Ian for a thoughtful, well-evidenced set of posts. I might by accident have a batten on top of an overlap, but the felt isn't part of my airtightness strategy. I'm guessing now that local roofers never use Kloeber Permo as part of the airtightness program for the houses on which they normally work. I am assuming that @PeterW thought that I was using KP for airtightness. Frankly, I'd be surprised (and delighted) if local roofers were involved in any work on airtightness.

Massive Declan. Like seriously massive. Cost to survey it @ProDave

A casual glance at a beautiful oak tree that we have caused me to stop dead in my tracks. I could see daylight in the middle of the trunk at eye level (6 feet). Tree surgeon called. Teeth sucked. Head scratched. Arse disappears into tree. Now I'm sucking my teeth at that. Get a proper survey, mate. That trees at least 200 years old. And it'll cost an arm and a leg to drop it. Several quotes all in the £600 range for one friggin tree. Is it me?

@lizzie, he played in our garden when he was a nipper. The garden that is now a building site. He's just gone out on his own.... as a roofer ?. Never once fell out with our kids.... Knows nowt about Nulok, so he wants the job. @Bitpipe, he loathes fitba, and is teetotall, been treated badly by wimmin in the recent past, so spends his time with his Staffie. Funny old game bildin' innit?