Nickfromwales

And now…something completely different….

It’s a shame that site doesn’t list lying scumbag customers. I wonder if any self employed members here have had issues with non-paying customers. May not be an isolated instance. The worst ones are those who think their in the right, in the wake of people with families to provide for, that have not paid what is due, with witnesses, and who have manipulated the “system” to their benefit when the people they should have paid were most vulnerable..,., These people disgust me. The lowest vermin of society.

Only if that is your only defence…….. Those who wriggle off the hook are not worth catching. Go clean the slime off your windows.

Indeed. The sediment-sucking (expletive deleted)tard I worked for on promise of payment owes me over £10k. £1100 for works unpaid for, for lighting in his kitchen, changing power feeds to the unannounced changes to the ovens, and more. The biggest piss-me-off we was the fact he moaned like a little bitch about me not coming to do X,Y & Z, and then, when I employed a second trade to come and do these things, he BEGGED me to deviate, which I contested, to do the extras in the kitchen diner. Then NEVER FCUKING PAID ME!!!! No matter HOW much this bead of sweat from the base of my balls, tries to justify the way he SHIT all over me, he will NEVER be half the person I am.

The entire reason that my business doesn’t need a website. People can meet me, do they or OWN DILIGENCE, and decide if they wish to do business with me or not. A very simple mechanism, agreed, but followed up by my insistence, then, of a robust and written contractual agreement where both parties understand what is to be given / expected. it’s regrettable that I had to take money from my bank account and put it into someone else’s property without reward, or even thanks, less their endless pursuit of smug happiness. The joys of owning a business based on the hope of sincerity.

No.2 all over sounds like my last, adverse, curry house experience……

Slime is probably a big issue.

Indeed. And the aforementioned case is mostly my fault. The alarm bells should have started ringing when I realised this guys wife was scared of him. Clients are as bad as companies, and you ( and I ) should NEVER go on faith alone. It’s a sad world we live in, where someone’s word means, absolutely, the square root of fcuk all. The only upside from these experiences is, that my business now functions with sufficient defence mechanisms that I cannot ever fall fowl of the first 2 bags of shit that I unfortunately ended up working ‘for’. The best information available on this forum is to follow the correct avenues and stick to them like Velcro. It’s a very nice thing to have a good rapport, but the devil is in the detail, and that detail being in writing. There are no friends in business, and I’ve learned that the very hard way

Yes, but it’ll need some woodworking skills!!

Not laughing now?

Yes indeed. I discussed a lot with a client previously, and both he and his wife smiled and nodded at all my suggestions, allowed me to carry out additional extra work on good faith, and then refused to pay for it. One bottom-dwelling fcuktard even resorted to lying about a family friend dying of cancer to get the last £1100 worth of good will out of me. Some people are lower to the ground than a slugs ball-sack.

Only a prick would find that funny. Says it all……….

Absolutely stinks to high heaven to me. ANY person so proud of their work that they would post it online, and brag about it, should be equally willing to engage both comprehensively and transparently. One option is he’s using smoke and mirrors… The other option is, that he is not much good with admin and the ‘back-end’ of the business. If, please tell me its for some other reason than just a glossy website, you want to work with this person, then the rope is around your neck not theirs. To protect yourself, as above, get a list of everything that needs doing, send a breakdown to him, get him to agree IN WRITING AND NOT OVER THE PHONE, and go forwards from there. If he then doesn’t fulfil every promise, only with the above diligence done would you have recourse for legal action. I’m working in Leicester atm with a client who’s general builder is wriggling off the hook for around £40k, and through legal loopholes he may walk Scot free, even though his work has since been inspected by BCO and has all failed with comments such as “this is the worst work I’ve seen in my career”. Forget all the glossy photos, get it all in writing or go somewhere else. End of.

Yup. Was it some old-skool fella? Hemp etc I only ever use on 1” 1/4 BSP and upwards, PTFE for everything else. What make rads are they / where did you get them from? Scabby Kudox stuff from B&Q / Screweys is born terminally ill.

Apologies @Thorfun Lets get back to plum,ing……

Thank fcuk you didn’t go plural with that one!!

Looks like a passion fruit.

Thought we’d already spoken about removing the mirrors?

So, another evening grooming men then?

Times must have changed! Last time I left there I was spitting feathers.

Jewson are ridiculous for pricing. I’ve used them twice in 20 years.

The weight in a blocked up horizontal pipe run is crazy. The way we used to install in anything other than domestic short(er) runs was to fit a metal bracket protruding horizontally, with the pipe suspended underneath, eg so there was little to no shear forces on the fixings. Agree with getting it fixed well in a domestic setting, but I’ve never done anything other than plastic coated all-round band ( horizontal runs through posi-joists ) or plastic clips for vertical. All-round band is a joy as you just tighten / loosen the screws to raise / lower the pipe and set the fall. Tres bien. The rule for frequency of fixings is dictated by whether or not its a solid continuous piece of pipe, or broken up with joints. A rising branch, for eg, would get a fixing immediately either side of it, and then around every 800mm, or less if you come to another fitting sooner. Remember not to tighten a fixing where a fitting is captive, eg the pipe and fitting are not free to move together, as that can cause the rubber seal in the fitting at the bottom to be under very little pressure, and for it to be badly compressed at the top. A situation which can cause a weeping joint at the lower ‘relaxed’ part of the seal. If the pipe enters a captive fitting, put the band of that fitting and not the pipe immediately prior to it. For sound deadening; Kilmat deals with a lot of the higher frequency stuff, but as that lot was over a bedroom, I had my guys install an additional layer of acoustic insulation between the joists at plasterboard level, adding more where the spotlights are to go.

I am proceeding to site on foot…….

A 50mm is nowhere near as big as I thought it would be. 35mm only marginally bigger than 25mm tbh.

There is the money statement. Optimal. Too many folk looking to put a crown on an unicorn imho, and things will work, life will go on, just not at the 100th percentile. It’s perfectly acceptable and with merit to strive for the 100th, but at what cost? And I mean that literally. Installers will give you practical advice based on results, manufacturers will offer 2 free unicorns with each system purchased, and you, without divine intervention, are supposed to decide what / which is best. So; The best place to be, is, on this impartial forum, where the good, bad and ugly are aired and those who have installed and have experience provide their “watrs ’n ’all” feedback. A lot harp on about their opinions about vents on opposing elevations, but not many recount where they both reside on the same adverse elevation…..but it was fine. Pinch of salt time