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Single Dwelling SUDS - full submission example please!
Roger440 replied to bodger53's topic in Rainwater, Guttering & SuDS
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Hmmm. But its not a cold roof is it? Given the depth constraints, i cant achieve the required u value with either cold or conventional warm roof. Although cold roof is moot as i cant get cross ventilation. And whats there now, albeit with no insulation at all. I reckon i can deal with most of your points except settlement. Timber shrinkage can be mitigated with gapotape or similar. Im not going to let your average builder loose on it. Im quite capable of a high standard of detailing. As you observe, the problem is moisture getting through. Surely then, the solution is not to let it through. What to do? Ive got 300mm. Thats it.
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Did that. Made no difference whatsoever. Added a vcl internally as well. Still no change. If moisture cant get in, how can it degrade?
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Yes, of course. That would be felt, grp or epdm etc. Just playing with ideas at this stage,
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Yes, i know i need a vapour barrier. But surely, between the plaster board and first layer of PIR. Yes, clearly if there are gaps etc, that would be an issue. As id be building it myself, i can make sure thats not the case. Problem is, ive got circa 300mm and need to use 200mm (ish) joists.
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At the risk of hijack................. I know this is percived wisdom, but ive only got 300m total height to worrk with so a conventional warm roof wont work. I put my proposed design into ubakus.de and it says all is well. What am i missing?
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At the topof the wall i presume you mran?
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MVHR installers or alternatives?
Roger440 replied to Swampy's topic in Mechanical Ventilation with Heat Recovery (MVHR)
Thanks. That makes sense. So, as i suspected there still needs to be a mechanical fan somewhere. Interesting though. Until i see where i get to with air tightness, cant really make any decisions. -
MVHR installers or alternatives?
Roger440 replied to Swampy's topic in Mechanical Ventilation with Heat Recovery (MVHR)
Thanks. All the blurb i can fins suggests there needs to be a fan somewhere, you a PIV for them to work. But it seems they are a mystery product, theres just no info beyond the basic website description. Im attracted to the concept as, essentially theres nothing to go wrong, and doesnt use any power. Which seems too good to be true. And we all know what that normally means! -
Just be aware post october 23, much has been tightened up in BCO land. They do now bear at least a small amount of responsibility for what they sign off, where, previously, they didnt. You may find they now want "evidence" from a qualified professional to support your assertions, even though your proposals are pretty conventional. That means paying for reports, such as WUFI, for example. But they might not. No way of knowing until they are involved. I know what id do, but thats very different to Redbeard. Clearly he has encounterd sensible BCO's to date. Do let us know how you get on though. Ill be doing similar in another year or so.
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Where are the battery costs in your numbers?
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Roger440 replied to Swampy's topic in Mechanical Ventilation with Heat Recovery (MVHR)
Its far from clear how these work. Google not much help either. What causes the air to move when they are open, as it says you need 20ps air pressure difference? -
Starting from a position of no heating yes. Doesnt add up if you have a nearly new gas system already. Obviously if you go DIY as you have done, then that skews the figures, but for most, who are just paying, (probably grossly inflated prices) its makes no economic sense. Just wait for the boiler to die, then do it. Im in the same position, albeit with oil. And i would DIY it. But it still makes no economic sense. I have some re-cofiguring of the heating to do, so i will provision for an ASHP. But i wont be fitting one until i have to or the economics swing in its favour.
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Floor slab insulation. Test my logic please?
Roger440 replied to saveasteading's topic in Barn Conversions
Thats interesting. I need to buy more for my workshop. The previous part i did in 100mm (seconds) with 100 x 50 battens. Was going to do 50 +50 this time to reduce the bridging effect of the battens. Though the saving on timber by using 50x50 studs might offset the PIR increase? Plus of course depends what seconds and Co have available at the time. -
Ed on another tangent. So, Rachel says they are getting rid of the ECO4 scheme to reduce bills, and Ed says he is going to load gas with extra cost and increase them. Left hand and right hand and all that. Not that it stacks up anyway, as 13bn, is less than £500 per household. Thats not going to buy you much, and certainly not at grossly inflated grant harvesting prices. Maybe it just for labour party members or some other select group?
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As others have said, you have not indicated your motivations. So rather a difficult question to answer. As you ask, id just leave it until it breaks. Put the money you would have spent to good use elsewhere.
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Floor slab insulation. Test my logic please?
Roger440 replied to saveasteading's topic in Barn Conversions
Where is this cheap PIR you speak of? -
Floor slab insulation. Test my logic please?
Roger440 replied to saveasteading's topic in Barn Conversions
Ive found this very difficult to use on the thicker boards. PIR at least. Works great at 50mm. Useless at 100mm. Better off with a cheap normal saw. -
It is the lack of clarity, and ultimately, the judgement of the BCO, that i would not involve then unless its unavoidable. If BCO doesnt agree, tough on you. There is no "appeal" process even if they are wrong. On some of the old house groups, theres been a couple of people running into quite some difficulty with BCO's that seem to be unwilling to relax standards based on it being an older building etc etc. Which the clause that Redbeard highlights specifically allows for. But if the BCO says no, then its no. To the point that one person couldnt insulate his roof to current standard, the BCO just said replace the entire roof structure so you can. All while roof is stripped. Sadly, as the old school BCO's retire and the new breed of box tickers comes in, i cant see it getting any better. OP, hope yours goes smoothly.
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Roger440 replied to saveasteading's topic in Barn Conversions
Doesnt building control use 15 years as its guide as to insisting on stuff, at least in a retrofit situation? -
Floor slab insulation. Test my logic please?
Roger440 replied to saveasteading's topic in Barn Conversions
Now thats a bit of a minefield if ever there was one............... -
Or you could not bother and just crack on and fit the insulation. How will anyone ever know? As always, aside from cost, what will the BCO add to this simple excercise? Bear in mind, they may not agree with your proposal and you may need to do more/something different to comply. Once they know work is happening, they know. You cannot have them "unknow".
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Roger440 replied to saveasteading's topic in Barn Conversions
Your comment about non faced only being available used/seconds is something i have wondered before. Where does it come from? I think its imported. Ive bought a heap of stuff from seconds, and it does indeed vary slightly in tickness. Certainly more so than when ive bought "proper" stuff. Mine was nominal 100,, foil faced, but many were 5mm plus less. I found the "cold weather" tape sticks to unfaced OK. Maybe not for long, but that wont matter if you are putting screed over it. I dont think id be concerned about using unfaced PIR here, assumimng the slab you are putting it over is dry and stays dry? -
You wont find dealers selling diggers at £6k. Too old and will inevitably have wear etc. Most dealers are simply not going to get involved. Auctions, private sales etc are where you will find them. But there are not many, as most get exported.
