Roger440

As above, this isnt the great breakthrough that we both know is actually required. Essentially being seen to do "something" whilst allowing business as usual.

Indeed. and if they think its good, you can 100% sure, its not good for the consumer. And it isnt.

In other words, no meaningful change. Just a few %. That not much more than background noise. They could have completely de-linked it. They still choose not to. This is another classic case of the PR and reality being worlds apart. And they choose not to, as too much money is being made.

No ongoing costs on mine (kress)

A lot of mower for the money. Support is woeful though. Cant speak to anyone. Ticket system as i understand it. Being able to pick up the phone and talk to someone narrowed the options down. A lot.

No issues at all.

Ive got a pair of Kress mowers bought in last years grand 70% off sale. Between them they cover circa 2.5 acres, 2/3rds of that is a fairly rough field. Hardware is great, customer support, great. They updated the app last month. Now utter garbage. Was fine before. Hopefully they will sort out the app. Their business model is 100% via dealers. So if you are an IT numpty like me, thats a result. But comes at a cost V cheap chinese ones, where you are the support. Pic here of the first cut of the field. The main reason for getting them, is its simply too waterlogged to get and machinery on it until late may. 2 years ago it was still so soft in August i buried the tractor up to its axles in mud! The mowers are quite happy as they are light.

I cant imagine a recession will result in a relaxation of any rules or regulations. As a wise person i worked with on the railway said, regulations are like a ratchet. Theres no way back.

They dont care about that either. Judge by actions, not by words. House building has reduced. And so prices stay high. It is in no ones interests, those who influence/ontrol government policy that is, for house prices to come down.

Yes! The only really difficult thing in the manual is the need for E marked glass. Fortunately a company in america have sold that problem for me by producing suitable glass anyway. The rest is mostly common sense and in some areas, like lighting, seems surprisingly lax.

If supply increased, (not that it will) but the next issue is the cost of actually building. As many on here have found out, the cost of building a house has escalted to the point where the costs in many parts of the country exceed the final value. House prices reducing will rapidly cause us to arrive at that point. We are regulating ourselves to a point where we wont be able to build anything. Its about the only thing the UK is good at. Of course, if normal rules of competition worked in housing, then the "factory" built housing we started the thread with might actually get developed properly as building the existing way will simply be unachievable financially.

Which particular part is more stringent. Having studied the manual from cover to cover, nothing springs to mind.

All very good, but you are daydreaming. Government doesnt want cheaper housing. So there wont be any actions to create cheaper housing. Indeed, most actions increase the cost of housing.

Hmmm. Ive never seen any door on a house that doesnt require "locking" if i can call it that, raising the handle up or other similar function to compress the seals tomake it fully weather tight. Maybe they do exist, ill take your word for it. There is no car available to buy new that doesnt have properly working door seals. No matter how cheap.

Agreed, the building of houses is in the dark ages, and, essentially hasnt really changed. Reasons could be discussed forever, but it is what it is. I agree, if someone invested serious cash into a properly big plant to make houses, they would clean up. But for some reason, the building game has completely avoided the normal competative behaviour that drives innovation in other industries. Like automotive, as you say. The doors in my house only become truly weathertight if i lock them. If i just close them, they dont cut out all draughts, like every UPVC door ive ever seen. Yet, on my car, when i close the door, its closed. No water, no drafts. Completely perfect. To use just one example. Id buy a factory built house over assembled on site any day. Though it sounds like current manufactured houses are a bit of a cottage industry if this thread is anything to go by.

Well, they certainly know how to charge! That much i do know. So, does this mean if you are in a different part of the country you dont pay? If so, thats bonkers. The cynic in me says this is to cash in on the forthcomin plug in solar. Maybe im just too cynical.

The way i see it is there is a risk. Big, small, hard to say. Removing it means that risk is removed. Given the problems and rework required "if" its a problem, personally, i wouldnt take the risk.

Good summary. Theres not a chance in the world i would put a render over woodfibre. Whilst the principle of vapour open is fine of itself, the reality of our climate especially here in wales, means that it will be getting wet, much more than it gets a chance to dry. Water will always find a way in. The idea just doest pass the common sense test. It was earlier this year i watched a brief storm batter my house from the west with horizontal rain, causing a rooster tail of the ridge tiles. Shame i didnt have my phone. But a handy reminder why we invented cavities.

Im assuming that you would put some sort of cladding on battening on the outside of that build up?

As others have said, seems rather high risk and totally dependant on the render to keep it all dry. Not for me that one.

The frogs and toads are certainly doing the domination bit! Its nuts. Been hoping some fish might appear, but alas, not to be it seems. I think the previous owner did indeed do just that, let it sort itself out. On the plant side, all we got was rushes and willows. Which is pretty much what any pond locally gets if left to its own devices. Right or wrong, we are adding some other plants progressively especially round the margins. No plastic liner so nature can do what it will do. Still dont know what to do with the island as that seems to be a thistle and hogweed development zone. And rushes.

Thanks. One thing i dont have is fish. Before we owned this place, there were fish, but then the otters moved in. There are however thousands of frogs and toads!

No idea. Be good to know. But if they do, germans being german will always follow the rules. Midly amusing story. Went to see one of our distributors in germany. He took us out to dinner in hamburg. Then to a pub. Anyway, he drove a big dodge ram and styled himself as a bit of a renegade/cowboy, against the german system etc. We walked back to the hotel, about 1am. No one about. Got to a cross roads and i crossed the road. He shouted to me to stop. I said "why". Because the pedestrian signal is Red he says. He simply couldnt understand or accept that i would cross the road, using my own judgement to do so when there was a light. There were NO moving cars in sight. anywhere. I found it an enlightening insight to german thinking. Albeit an isolated one. Needless to say, he took some ribbing from that point on.

You just said it. And my point is that you cant be wrong. Ever. There is no point discussing anything, because there is a risk my view wont align with yours. (high risk id suggest) And you are always right. I humbly apologise for daring to question or comment your narrative. Or is it a broadcast.

Jesus, give it a rest. But proving my point nonetheless.