epsilonGreedy Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Track/Plunge saws are the tool of the moment on YouTube though here on BuildHub they do not get so much focus. Is this because track saws are more relevant to serious DIYers with permanent carpentry workshops and/or odd job tradesmen? I could do with one now to knock up 20 door panels (600mm x 500mm) for my under static caravan skirting however before parting with my cash I was wondering where a track saw could be put to good use later in a build. This is my list so far: Trimming first floor 8x4 flooring sheets to size. Kitchen fitout e.g. counter top trimming. Alcove cupboard fitout in MDF. Any ply sheet trimming during a bathroom fit out. Edited February 23, 2019 by epsilonGreedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 They are brilliant Acurate and SAFE I’ve had mine for quite a few years They quite new and exspensive back then So Quik to rip sheets down Including cement board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I can’t justify one - I borrow a Festool one from a joiner for the price of a 4 Pack when I need it. I do have some neat clamps that can span a full board and act as a rail and they have multiple uses. For repetitive stuff and where you want accuracy, as your local timber merchants to cut to size or get a B&Q Trade Card and get the sheet stuff via them - works out just as cheap as trying to do it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) yes i bought a straight edge thats a clamp as well --fine for 4ft cut --but not long enough for other way www.onbuy.com/gb/clamps-and-vices/silverline-guide-clamp-1270mm-675056-guide-clamp-silverline-675056-1270mm~c5692~p3373033/ but neither are normal track saw unless you buy more extensions hardly the end of the world to clamp a bit of studding to a sheet anyway Edited February 23, 2019 by scottishjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 This is the one I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I just use a long length of 50mm x 8mm aluminium bar as a straight edge. Had it for years and use it for everything where I need some sort of cutting guide, from guiding a knife when scoring PB to use as a general marking out or saw guide. Clamped to a bit of board it's easy to just run a circular saw along it, with the base plate pushed up to the edge. Only thing to watch is the height of the clamps. I made up some low profile ones from some 1" aluminium bar, as the clamps need to be able to duck under the saw motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I have a festool one I use for all fine carpentry, just been doing a worktop. O have the festool rails as well these connect together so I can get to about 3.6 meters. They also have under clamps that allow you to clamp the ends. I have to say that getting them dead staight does require another straight edge during set up as although they are well made and I keep mine in a purpose made box they are about 250 wide and 1.4M long so you can be mm out if you are a fraction out of square at the join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Dewalt have a cheap plunge saw for around 250 It will do the job I think I paid around 700 for Hilti about ten years back It’s had some abuse cutting vent boards But still going strong You can’t put a price on those pinky’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said: I have a festool one I use for all fine carpentry, just been doing a worktop. O have the festool rails as well these connect together so I can get to about 3.6 meters. They also have under clamps that allow you to clamp the ends. I have to say that getting them dead staight does require another straight edge during set up as although they are well made and I keep mine in a purpose made box they are about 250 wide and 1.4M long so you can be mm out if you are a fraction out of square at the join. not sure how many want to pay the price for a long track --£200 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I got the whole setup as a job lot about 5 yeas back when money grew on trees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I have the dewalt track saw and have found it to be the most useful tool I have ever bought. I am not sure why you would pay extra for the festool one unless you were using it every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I have a Makita rail saw. It was used to cut Fermacell wall board with a vacuum attached. One of the labourers cut through the edge of one of the rails so they now only work nicely for 1400 long cuts. Quite a good tool but it is mains powered and comes in a big makpac case so good if you set yourself up to do a fair bit with it, otherwise a cordless with a fence works for most things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Cheap one in @Onoff favourite store... Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, PeterW said: Cheap one in @Onoff favourite store... Here Looks useless for cutting widthwise across a 1200mm board! I bought a clamp on fence from Lidl...only 1m long. POS.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 hours ago, MikeSharp01 said: I have a festool one I use for all fine carpentry, Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Bit Like @JSHarris I use a length of ply and some clamps. I have written all over it so I don’t mistake it fir an offcut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Makita Guide Rail Adapter B – 195838 7 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DF6TUB6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KAyCCb98TND8E Well worth the money. Only time I actually use the real plunge saw is for cutting out sinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I used to use clamps and a straight edge but once you start using a rail there's no going back really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, PeterW said: Cheap one in @Onoff favourite store... Here And the same model used in Tracksaw Workshop series by Peter Millard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQjGwZT3Ak However in the Triton/Workzone tracksaw comparison he favours the Triton because of the peculiar non standard Workzone/Scheppach track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZGt_LqR5O8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, Construction Channel said: Makita Guide Rail Adapter B – 195838 7 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DF6TUB6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KAyCCb98TND8E Well worth the money. Only time I actually use the real plunge saw is for cutting out sinks Ok this presents a new option. Are you suggesting buying a regular Makita circular saw and then coupling this with the adapter and a decent 1.4m single piece rail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 The real question is: How many long rips are you likely to need to make in a typical self-build? At a guess, I'd say there were less than a couple of dozen times when I needed to cut long rips in boards, and most of those were flooring, where a guide on the saw made far more sense than trying to set up a rail.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Exactly. It fits on my cordless in seconds. Mark both sides of the board (no messing about with offsets) put the rail on, makita rail in my case. No need to clamp it usually and then cut. Edit: I do also have an adaptor for my big saw as well. Just make sure you get the right one for your model of saw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, JSHarris said: The real question is: How many long rips are you likely to need to make in a typical self-build? At a guess, I'd say there were less than a couple of dozen times when I needed to cut long rips in boards, and most of those were flooring, where a guide on the saw made far more sense than trying to set up a rail.. I do have 3 rails for when I was cutting up the tree. But usually I just use one. Even on a long rip I just move the rail along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Like others I use a aluminium rail, I use it with my jigsaw and circular saws and it doubles up as my “long” straight edge for levelling and marking. I got this bad boy for £30 ex demo but new they are over £60...... when breaking down sheets the clamps are great as it’s quick and easy. It will outlast me if I don’t do anything stupid with it........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 16 hours ago, PeterW said: Cheap one in @Onoff favourite store... Here Iwas tempted --if they had longer rails to go with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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