GK22 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) Hi I am new to all this and been reading the forum for a while. Finally gathered the courage to post the designs and ready to receive comments. Its a slightly unusual design and probably not to everyone's taste. But all comments welcome. Thanks Edited May 7, 2023 by GK22 Wrong attachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Wow, it looks amazing. A lot of glass was my first thought. What is the orientation of the elevation with a lot of big windows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GK22 Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jilly said: Wow, it looks amazing. A lot of glass was my first thought. What is the orientation of the elevation with a lot of big windows? Open Applehill Topo edit.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 It looks like offices Loose some of the glass and increase your budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETC Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Sorry - not a fan. Looks like 80’s Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanR Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I do like a double pitch roof, but for some reason on this it feels a little "unresolved". Huff Haus have made it their USP in the kit house world and I've tended to like their form, but they keep things a little simpler, with more balance and symmetry. It feels as if on yours everything is different, but without a good visual reason. I appreciate you've squeezed in access to a roof terrace under the central roof, but you can't read that from the primary elevation. For me, I'd slope the garage roof the other way, so that it is parallel with the central roof. If the two house roofs can't be at the same height then I'd look for the same height difference between each height change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Hi. First impression is "nice!" The 2 roofs need to be at the same height, as when stood on the terrace you'll be nose height with the lower 'blade'. I think that would be a regret. Juliet balcony ( even if it is faux ) opposite end to the main balcony, as they appear to be openable double doors(?), and see if @nod likes it then . On that rear, bare, wall section, consider a living trellis where the stainless wires are held off the wall by 200mm, and trim & maintain it / choose the plants to be minimal. Garage roof is a bone of contention, as it's a second home to more PV. I'd prefer PV vs looks there tbh. Glazed facade is to the East, so solar gain should be less of an issue vs that lot facing South, but I would have a room-by-room PHPP analysis done to be 100% sure that the upper sections wouldn't benefit from some solar reflective coatings, but I think the 2x corner windows would defo benefit from it. I'd rather be looking to put a tiny bit of heat in vs having to get rid of it peak summertime. Other than that I quite like it, and will be very jealous of you. "Continue!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Nickfromwales said: Hi. First impression is "nice!" The 2 roofs need to be at the same height, as when stood on the terrace you'll be nose height with the lower 'blade'. I think that would be a regret. Juliet balcony ( even if it is faux ) opposite end to the main balcony, as they appear to be openable double doors(?), and see if @nod likes it then . On that rear, bare, wall section, consider a living trellis where the stainless wires are held off the wall by 200mm, and trim & maintain it / choose the plants to be minimal. Garage roof is a bone of contention, as it's a second home to more PV. I'd prefer PV vs looks there tbh. Glazed facade is to the East, so solar gain should be less of an issue vs that lot facing South, but I would have a room-by-room PHPP analysis done to be 100% sure that the upper sections wouldn't benefit from some solar reflective coatings, but I think the 2x corner windows would defo benefit from it. I'd rather be looking to put a tiny bit of heat in vs having to get rid of it peak summertime. Other than that I quite like it, and will be very jealous of you. "Continue!". I think I was being kind with office My took one look and said car showroom Seriously it like one of those where the Architect has be given free license and told don’t worry about the budget There isn’t one BUT If funds arnt an issue and you like it Build it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 render ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patp Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Check the orientation. Architects use the view from the road (kerb appeal) to orientate their designs. They don't have to live in them. Solar gain is very important and the lift that South and West facing windows give you when you have lived with them cannot be bought. We had to completely rotate our bungalow because all the main rooms faced North and East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 IMHO overall it's a nice design. I like the entry view. The SE view has too much glazing and the NW view has too much render. Breaking up the render with timber cladding as in the entry view would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Can we have a floor plan of the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanR Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, ProDave said: Can we have a floor plan of the house? 11 hours ago, GK22 said: Binder1.pdf 4.45 MB · 16 downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 10 hours ago, nod said: It looks like offices It does, but very nice offices. I have designed and built several quite like this, so cleagly like the look. People say ours, for offices and schools, are almost domestic, so not so officey , clearly. These overhangs, which are such a big feature....they aren't enough to shade windows, so are entirely for show. They keep rain and wind off the high section of wall, so you will get a stripe of dirt or algae there. Allow for annual cleaning. Ideal to build in steel. The overhangs would then be costing £250 / m run. So I hope you like them a lot. Oh, and there are no gutters or rain water pipes. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Oh I posted my comment on the wrong thread! 😂 I like the Huf Haus look. My wife’s uncle is an accomplished architect (retired) and built a Huf 10 years ago when he could have designed his own house. It looks as clean and fresh today as it did when built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, saveasteading said: It does, but very nice offices. I have designed and built several quite like this, so cleagly like the look. People say ours, for offices and schools, are almost domestic, so not so officey , clearly. These overhangs, which are such a big feature....they aren't enough to shade windows, so are entirely for show. They keep rain and wind off the high section of wall, so you will get a stripe of dirt or algae there. Allow for annual cleaning. Ideal to build in steel. The overhangs would then be costing £250 / m run. So I hope you like them a lot. Oh, and there are no gutters or rain water pipes. Oops. Architects don’t usually bother about practicalities like gutters 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETC Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, nod said: Architects don’t usually bother about practicalities like gutters 😂 Or chimneys😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 The split roof and roof terrace seems to add a lot of complication, a lot of cost, and a lot to detail to get the air tightness and insulation right, for little benefit. Fine if you have a big budget and you really do want that. A conventional roof that meets at the ridge would be way easier to detail and get right, and if you already have a balcony at first floor level for the view. I would want some more windows in that blank wall, or some form of contrasting cladding panels to break it up. The big overhangs will look nice if detailed properly, but have the potential to look poor if the detailing is wrong. It's all about detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK22 Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 12 hours ago, ETC said: Sorry - not a fan. Looks like 80’s Miami. No problem. I dont know what 80's Miami style is....like Miami though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK22 Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 11 hours ago, IanR said: I do like a double pitch roof, but for some reason on this it feels a little "unresolved". Huff Haus have made it their USP in the kit house world and I've tended to like their form, but they keep things a little simpler, with more balance and symmetry. It feels as if on yours everything is different, but without a good visual reason. I appreciate you've squeezed in access to a roof terrace under the central roof, but you can't read that from the primary elevation. For me, I'd slope the garage roof the other way, so that it is parallel with the central roof. If the two house roofs can't be at the same height then I'd look for the same height difference between each height change. We have taken the inspiration from hut - haus but didn't want an exact replica and a bit of asymmetry. I kept the roof terrace access for occasional use and for roof maintenance access etc., With the british weather its unlikely we could spend a lot of time there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK22 Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Hi. First impression is "nice!" The 2 roofs need to be at the same height, as when stood on the terrace you'll be nose height with the lower 'blade'. I think that would be a regret. Juliet balcony ( even if it is faux ) opposite end to the main balcony, as they appear to be openable double doors(?), and see if @nod likes it then . On that rear, bare, wall section, consider a living trellis where the stainless wires are held off the wall by 200mm, and trim & maintain it / choose the plants to be minimal. Garage roof is a bone of contention, as it's a second home to more PV. I'd prefer PV vs looks there tbh. Glazed facade is to the East, so solar gain should be less of an issue vs that lot facing South, but I would have a room-by-room PHPP analysis done to be 100% sure that the upper sections wouldn't benefit from some solar reflective coatings, but I think the 2x corner windows would defo benefit from it. I'd rather be looking to put a tiny bit of heat in vs having to get rid of it peak summertime. Other than that I quite like it, and will be very jealous of you. "Continue!". Thank you. Agree with the points on north elevation with a lot of render. Will break it with some cladding ideas and/or trellis. room-by-room PHPP analysis - So far have got quotes for overheating calculations using Dynamic Thermal remodelling and SAP 10 Calculations & Predicated PEA's/EPC's (Approved Document Part L) - A bit out of depth here and need to do some research. Any help and advice would be gratefully received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK22 Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 3 hours ago, nod said: I think I was being kind with office My took one look and said car showroom Seriously it like one of those where the Architect has be given free license and told don’t worry about the budget There isn’t one BUT If funds arnt an issue and you like it Build it Thanks. Glad this will at least be a nice car show room 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK22 Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Dave Jones said: render ....... Hi Dave Still haven't finalised the final external finish. I am thinking of k rend/stone and timber cladding. But not sure which bits go where. Still debating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK22 Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, patp said: Check the orientation. Architects use the view from the road (kerb appeal) to orientate their designs. They don't have to live in them. Solar gain is very important and the lift that South and West facing windows give you when you have lived with them cannot be bought. We had to completely rotate our bungalow because all the main rooms faced North and East. Thanks pats. have look at the attached too.. Let me know if you can't access it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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