Onoff Posted August 15, 2018 Author Posted August 15, 2018 On 14/08/2018 at 22:29, Nickfromwales said: Change of £19 for the 300mm one. Fitting two of these exact ones in my current job. Will show a pic tomorrow. Looks the dogs bollocks for the money. Expand Tbh I did quite fancy one of those cheapo ones that have LEDs powered by the running water. A doddle to change to one if we want to. Seems all of a sudden prices have shot up even for these!
Nickfromwales Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 06:13, Onoff said: Tbh I did quite fancy one of those cheapo ones that have LEDs powered by the running water. A doddle to change to one if we want to. Seems all of a sudden prices have shot up even for these! Expand A little chavvy, no ?
Onoff Posted August 15, 2018 Author Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) On 15/08/2018 at 06:16, Nickfromwales said: A little chavvy, no ? Expand Bluetooth speakers & a body dryer aren't? Edited August 15, 2018 by Onoff 1
newhome Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 07:40, Onoff said: Bluetooth speakers & a body dryer aren't? Expand What’s a body dryer? Like a huge hand dryer? Not heard of a towel? ? How the hell will it dry all of you? I have visions of you doing bathroom gymnastics ?
Jeremy Harris Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 07:48, newhome said: What’s a body dryer? Like a huge hand dryer? Not heard of a towel? ? How the hell will it dry all of you? I have visions of you doing bathroom gymnastics ? Expand There's a video earlier in this thread somewhere, IIRC.
ProDave Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 07:48, newhome said: What’s a body dryer? Like a huge hand dryer? Not heard of a towel? ? How the hell will it dry all of you? I have visions of you doing bathroom gymnastics ? Expand Are you any good at holding a hand stand?
newhome Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 07:54, ProDave said: Are you any good at holding a hand stand? Expand He’s probably been studying the Karma Sutra to increase his flexibility ?
Onoff Posted August 15, 2018 Author Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 07:48, newhome said: What’s a body dryer? Like a huge hand dryer? Expand This. Can't wait to get it going. Basically SWMBO steps underneath and at the touch of the remote the bird in the video steps out! 1
PeterW Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 07:48, newhome said: What’s a body dryer? Like a huge hand dryer? Not heard of a towel? ? How the hell will it dry all of you? I have visions of you doing bathroom gymnastics ? Expand Forgot that @newhome only joined in Feb 2018 and this thread goes back to Ebuild days ..!!! 1
newhome Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 08:43, PeterW said: Forgot that @newhome only joined in Feb 2018 and this thread goes back to Ebuild days ..!!! Expand You mean he’s been soggy and damp since then? Oh no, he uses a towel like everyone else. Still can’t see how it shoves hot air out the ceiling and dries your legs etc. Home video required please @Onoff ? 1
Hecateh Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 Looks good and there are a few suppliers. I wanted the 300 round and that seems to be out of stock at the moment. Has anyone got a 400mm shower head? Does it make a lot of difference?
PeterW Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 09:07, Hecateh said: Looks good and there are a few suppliers. I wanted the 300 round and that seems to be out of stock at the moment. Has anyone got a 400mm shower head? Does it make a lot of difference? Expand Beware of these at medium and low water pressure - they don’t run properly without a good flow. The bigger the head the higher the flow needed
Hecateh Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 My water pressure at the current house is great. The screeders got soaked when they switched on for the wash out. They were very surprised at the pressure lol Is the new one likely to be the same?
newhome Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 I think my water pressure is pretty decent but I have a tower shower (when it worked anyway!) with rainfall head and body jets. When the body jets were on I really noticed that the flow from the rainfall shower was affected. A larger rainfall shower head would have the same effect I imagine. Believe me a rainfall shower with a piddly flow is not what you want, plus a larger head would presumably use more water / energy.
Hecateh Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 15/08/2018 at 10:22, newhome said: I think my water pressure is pretty decent but I have a tower shower (when it worked anyway!) with rainfall head and body jets. When the body jets were on I really noticed that the flow from the rainfall shower was affected. A larger rainfall shower head would have the same effect I imagine. Believe me a rainfall shower with a piddly flow is not what you want, plus a larger head would presumably use more water / energy. Expand There is another supplier with equally good rating who has the size I wanted so I think I'll go with that.
Onoff Posted August 24, 2018 Author Posted August 24, 2018 Does "50mm" on these solvent weld ABS fittings refer to the nominal bore? The internal dia of this elbow is 55/56mm. On the outside it says "Plumb Centre CB3 55 (2) 88.5deg" yet it's marketed as "50mm". https://www.wolseley.co.uk/product/center-cb3%3Ab-abs-knuckle-bend-8850-deg-50-mm/ I'm going to buy a load from here to tidy up my existing / new wastes so as not to suffer Plumb Centres pi$$ taking prices: https://www.drainagepipe.co.uk/
Onoff Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 Back up in the loft..... Amongst other things I need to get rid of the mass of bodged sink & basin waste pipes. Before anyone suggests it I will not be taking them into the newly re-routed grey soil via solvent weld bosses! Thinking on these lines in 50mm solvent weld: Slight concern where it comes down the wall and meets the bath waste at the tee. That "MIN" dimn might in fact be zero with the fittings butting up to each other. Does it look OK?
CC45 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 What about freezing weather? Its a long length of pipe outside. Just a thought. Others will know the answer I'm sure.
Onoff Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) On 25/08/2018 at 08:02, CC45 said: What about freezing weather? Its a long length of pipe outside. Just a thought. Others will know the answer I'm sure. Expand It's only the vertical section after the two 135o bends that is outside and the two (slopes) to the drain. The higher horizontal sections are within the hip roof. The blue "L" bit of pipe on the sketch comes from the existing upstairs ensuite - currently white push fit at 41mm (bought I guess as 1 1/2") outside dia. I can look to replace that in solvent weld easy enough. What I haven't shown, though you can see it in the photos on the last post, is the upstairs ensuite basin waste that comes, in 35mm outside dia, (bought I guess as 1 1/4") push fit, from under the 9"x 6" supporting the dormer walls. For now that has to stay in plastic so I need to go from that into the tee of the 50mm solvent weld but guessing I need a rubber "bung" of some sort. Edited August 25, 2018 by Onoff
Onoff Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 Just come across this which seems quite handy: Pipe Sizes and Dimensions Chart
Nickfromwales Posted August 26, 2018 Posted August 26, 2018 Why in gods name would you do such a flawed pipe run when you have a 110mm stack right next to where your discharging !?!?! You cannot have the 50mm run going all that way and then dropping vertically without an AAV at the head of the run. Id never run it like that as even with an AAV you'll likely cause enough of a vacuum in the drop to pull on the sink trap. We've just had a thread here showing that this doesn't work, and that dropped in 50mm too, with an AAV, but still wouldnt let the shower discharge. . Get a proper 110mm boss socket, agreed that where possible you should avoid strap-on bosses but I've fitted hundreds without issue, and put them into that. TBH where you have the Y branch with the 45 and the blank you can just add another branch instead of the 45 and then fit one of these to collect the 50mm pipe with all other teed in to the 50mm accordingly. Dont do the long run, its proper naff
Onoff Posted August 26, 2018 Author Posted August 26, 2018 On 26/08/2018 at 09:49, Nickfromwales said: Why in gods name would you do such a flawed pipe run when you have a 110mm stack right next to where your discharging !?!?! You cannot have the 50mm run going all that way and then dropping vertically without an AAV at the head of the run. Id never run it like that as even with an AAV you'll likely cause enough of a vacuum in the drop to pull on the sink trap. We've just had a thread here showing that this doesn't work, and that dropped in 50mm too, with an AAV, but still wouldnt let the shower discharge. . Get a proper 110mm boss socket, agreed that where possible you should avoid strap-on bosses but I've fitted hundreds without issue, and put them into that. TBH where you have the Y branch with the 45 and the blank you can just add another branch instead of the 45 and then fit one of these to collect the 50mm pipe with all other teed in to the 50mm accordingly. Dont do the long run, its proper naff Expand Erm.....suitably admonished.....that's saved me a few quid maybe. It would be nice I'll admit and neater to lose that waste run in the loft.The reason for doing it all separate is that that clay run goes into a giant, bottomless, cess pit (still yet to locate) that's been known to back up. Is my fear of it backing up and affecting the upstairs basin and shower, especially if the traps dry out, irrational?
ProDave Posted August 26, 2018 Posted August 26, 2018 On 26/08/2018 at 10:00, Onoff said: Erm.....suitably admonished.....that's saved me a few quid maybe. It would be nice I'll admit and neater to lose that waste run in the loft.The reason for doing it all separate is that that clay run goes into a giant, bottomless, cess pit (still yet to locate) that's been known to back up. Is my fear of it backing up and affecting the upstairs basin and shower, especially if the traps dry out, irrational? Expand If it backs up, it's when it gets to downstairs WC pan level that your "problems" start. 1
PeterW Posted August 26, 2018 Posted August 26, 2018 On 26/08/2018 at 10:00, Onoff said: Is my fear of it backing up and affecting the upstairs basin and shower, especially if the traps dry out, irrational? Expand irrational or ludicrous ..?? even if it doesn’t back up, if the traps dry out it will smell anyway... and if it backs up to first floor then your shower wall drain in that new ground floor shower will need one hell of a non return valve on it ..!!! 1
Onoff Posted August 26, 2018 Author Posted August 26, 2018 On 26/08/2018 at 10:03, ProDave said: If it backs up, it's when it gets to downstairs WC pan level that your "problems" start. Expand Not ideal but if I separate the waste like I was going to then if thinks back up I can still use the shower and just divert over the garden temporarily whilst I sort the soil run out...
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