Pocster Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 It's a bit like watches. Ask a man with one watch what the time is, and he is sure. a man who has several watches is never quite sure. If you measure a gap with one measure, then mark the bit of wood with the same measure, all will be fine. Work out which one is missing a bit and throw it in the bin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 For each critical measurement, I now use all of the following: a (German) yardstick, a laser and then a (Swedish) steel tape. Sometimes I wait, do something else and re-do the measurements. If I can't get a consistent result, I use a story-stick, and measure that. I've recently taken to marking wood with a craft knife, not a 3H pencil. Maybe thats the difference between the different Fit Levels. With 3rd-fit stuff you can't mutter quietly " Nobody's gonna know" Each instrument has its strengths and weaknesses. But I remember @Nickfromwales advice about the issue (years ago). He was right - measure at least twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joth Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 I assume that's a meme off the internet, not @pocster's own tool failure They're both imperial only, so presumably a USA meme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, joth said: I assume that's a meme off the internet, not @pocster's own tool failure They're both imperial only, so presumably a USA meme. Yes . My tool functions fine ; but is equally difficult to get an accurate measure of … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 use a micrometre son... you know it make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 4 hours ago, pocster said: If you are using imperial units of measurement, you have greater issues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, pocster said: Yes . My tool functions fine ; but is equally difficult to get an accurate measure of … Presumably you, "measure with the top tape"? "I know it doesn't feel like it luv, but the tape doesn't lie!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, Adsibob said: If you are using imperial units of measurement, you have greater issues. I occasionally watch woodworking videos on Youtube. Watching Americans doing mental arithmetic using combinations of quarters, 8ths, 16ths, and 32nds is physically painful. I mean, it's clever that they can do it at all, but if I'm working on something, I want to focus on the work, not the maths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Onoff said: I know it doesn't feel like it luv, but the tape doesn't lie!" That your SWMBO or mine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 hours ago, ProDave said: throw it in the bin. I suspect Stanley would be shocked, and give you a new one.. For very, very accurate measurement I was taught not to use the end, so we would start at 1m or whatever, as long as we remembered to add that to the number. Some special tapes have a long pull handle to allow this to be done from a proper zero. There are different categories of accuracy and some are remarkably approximate to be considered to be to a standard. That is understandable for a rough survey through undergrowth where a fibre tape is better and an approximation will suffice. BUT I once bought an own-brand steel tape from TS which was out by over 100mm over 30m. (The worst Class 3 would have allowed 15mm error). Could have been expensive and we had all the foundations, bolts and walls in using it before, fortunately, using another tape. I got the money back but declined to take it back to the shop. Presumably that level of error is known at the factory but deliberately overlooked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 You've been sold short 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Not the length, its is the girth that is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) You cheapskates! Buying for the lowest price! You need at least a class two tape: Edited June 7, 2022 by Marvin Spellingggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 47 minutes ago, Marvin said: You cheapskates! Buying for the lowest price! You need at least a class two tape: 12 inches of jam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Get decent class 1 tapes and work with them. Here are two of mine, about 1mm out over 8m, against a non class one tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said: Get decent class 1 tapes and work with them. Here are two of mine, about 1mm out over 8m, against a non class one tape. For a class one it should be no more than 0.9mm over 8 meters in accordance with EC regulations 2004/32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said: about 1mm out over 8m Where they at the same temperature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Yes - they were left out together to stabilise, maybe one absorbed more sun than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 06/06/2022 at 16:38, saveasteading said: For very, very accurate measurement I use a lazer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, MikeSharp01 said: I use a lazer! I sailed one. 13 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said: about 1mm 7 minutes ago, Marvin said: no more than 0.9mm Called a gnats cock on the shop floor. Now, interference fits, tights as a nun's (expletive deleted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Last time I looked 0.9mm was about a mm. Still, yesterday I lost 3 microns - took me all day with an inchworm, couple of nanometers at a time, to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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