ToughButterCup Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, rh2205 said: @ToughButterCup we went with the architect who looking back probably rushed lots of things ... [ we ] ... wanted a house ready to live in without it taking 5years. Bang on. Six years in to our build, several things like that going on in this house right now. I have a saying to whoever will listen when I'm overloaded ( which is mostly) - runs like this At the moment, there are several booms stuck up my @rse to help me sweep up as well as do everything else. If you are going to put another one up there, I can't guarantee it won't fall out. Edited March 26, 2021 by ToughButterCup 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, rh2205 said: @joe90 are you saying it’s our mistake then? Even though they had all these bits before they started? Why would you buy a chrome bottle trap and a sink without a cabinet otherwise? No, as a retired builder who did lots of this work in the past I know from experience that it’s important for the customer to say exactly what’s required. No I would not have done it like that but I have a reputation for being a tad OCD. Customers used to laugh at my quotes because they read like “war and peace” because I had been bitten on the arse over assumptions I made about the customers requirements in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rh2205 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 @PeterW 600mm wide, 380mm tall, 430mm deep. You probably can get some not so appealing pedestal, but I’m not sure with the expensive bottle trap whether it would be better to rectify. The builder told us it was meant to be like that, I just laughed and said but the sink manual shows the water tails above the waste pipe outlet... why would you buy a chrome bottle trap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Rectify that will need the tile removed and you could crack others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: Or even a semi pedestal? may struggle to match the white porcelain. With a cabinet you could go for a colour or white, and it doesn’t have to be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rh2205 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just wondering if we can get a cabinet to fit with the sink. I mean made to measure means we might as well just correct the work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I think you are being a bit harsh. If the plumber had moved the tails up there would have been a coil of excess tail, which may have been visible. (I'm assuming you supplied the tails). At least they are roughly level, vertial and equidistant from the trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 This tile / basin placement highlights the difficulties of getting different trades to work together. To get that "right" you would have needed the tiler to plan it in detail and mark out exactly where the tile joints are going to be. that would have to happen before the plasterboard when on, so the plumber could then centre all the pipework with respect to the tiles. then the plasterboard could go on and the tiling commence. And if the tiler then changes his plan.......... These things are a lot easier to get right if you DIY it and the tiler and plumber are the same person, and you don't mind it all taking longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 It is a bathroom, not a £20million commissioned painting. A bathroom, where ones shits, showers and shaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rh2205 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 @ProDave to be honest I am not calling out the tiles.. we know we messed up that one though I noticed the low water pipes issue first because it feels like the bottle trap detail is completely lost! It’s just a culmination, we hadn’t considered the complexity of using a larger tile for a small complicated space. Got similar on the other bathroom, thank god you just walk in towards a bare shower wall with just large tiles on and that is basically the end of wall tiles in that room! Can’t return tiles it seems already asked that one ? Totally agree this is a first world problem & it only serves one purpose just don’t like it if an element looks DIY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Is that all you @SteamyTea do in a bathroom? We .... read doze think drink answer email surf BuildHub be sensibly merry do our online banking do our weekly shopping order from Aldi (Vorsprung Durch Einkaufen !) listen to podcasts and the radio waterboard grandchildren read them stories duck and dive to very loud music too. Edited March 26, 2021 by ToughButterCup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Redo the pipework in Chrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rh2205 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Hmm will think about it at the weekend it was actually a parent that did the tiling (a professional), so this could of all turned out better if we had just discussed it more about everything that’s involved in planning, just bad at comms with said parent too ?. Does also mean we can go to the struggle of correcting without so much extra cost but I think we will have to live with the alignments as that may well be taking it too far and will mean attempting to get two tiles up in conjunction with trying to save the trim (taking the one below up not likely as much damaging). Thanks for all the thoughts. Anyway it’s a learning curve we certainly have learnt how so many things could be improved along the way, first time doing anything other than replacing a boiler we’ve been that lucky with previous houses! Edited March 26, 2021 by rh2205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 The room looks lovely, it would bother me initially then I would forget about it as not important in the grand scheme of things but endeavour to make sure I didn’t do it again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Some aspects of plumbing annoy me. In our en-suite I brought the h&c water pipes out as high as I could expecting them to be out of view. But the tap comes with flexi tails and they can only bend so tight before they kink, and with them bent as tight as they possibly can, you can just see them sticking out underneath. Why can't someone come up with a better system? 20 years ago when I bought a basin with a monoblock mixer tap it cam with solid tails that I could cut to length and I could have fitted an elbow to each to keep the pipework tight to the underside of the unit. It is a long time since I have seen a monoblock tap with rigid tails. It seems "flexi is king" at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, ProDave said: ... Why can't someone come up with a better system? 20 years ago when I .... Can't get the staff these days sir.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 https://www.bes.co.uk/copper-monobloc-tap-tails-m10-x-15mm-19800/ copper tails- still available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramco Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ProDave said: It seems "flexi is king" at the moment And the flexi tails rot and slowly leak, causing the metal casing to rust and eventually to give way - result - a massive blow out. make sure you know where your stopcock is! Of course the rust could just be from condensation but either way it's a massive pain if it happens. Go copper!! Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ProDave said: In our en-suite I brought the h&c water pipes out as high as I could expecting them to be out of view. I like the en-suit style @ProDavewas it inspired by your visit to the Pompidou Centre in Paris i.e. flaunt ones structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Mr Punter said: Not really a crime against humanity compared to the f**k ups I see from most plumbers. You picking on me ? . Tbh you labelled “ plumber “ - so I’m good with that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 hours ago, SteamyTea said: It is a bathroom, not a £20million commissioned painting. A bathroom, where ones shits, showers and shaves. How do you know it didn’t cost 20 million ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, epsilonGreedy said: I like the en-suit style @ProDavewas it inspired by your visit to the Pompidou Centre in Paris i.e. flaunt ones structure. It was inspired by a free standing unit SWMBO saw, but of course it was the wrong size and very expensive, so I built that unit to look like it was free standing (it is very much fixed) and give the open shelf look that was wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, pocster said: How do you know it didn’t cost 20 million ? Them Corns, they knows every fink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, pocster said: How do you know it didn’t cost 20 million Because I fitted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Because I fitted it. Incredible to think this was prime time entertainment back in the day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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