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Poxy stud on the left wasn't noggined / dwanged properly! I'd like to try and twist it straight but the other side of this pb wall is the tiled shower enclosure. Granted that it will all eventually be redone but it's already twisted away from the pb: It's 350mm between faces of studs but more 355/360 at the front: Luckily I have BEER!

I am mate!

Soft, southern shandy drinker me!

Is that that cloudy wheat beer stuff? Can't get on with it.

The wispy bits from silver birch bark makes for a superb firestarter to get your kindling going. Handy if hiking...or your plane crashes in the Andes...

If you build a bonfire pile and leave it for a while before lighting it can become a haven for wildlife. From hedgehogs making nests to slow worms under the rotting base. Worth giving things a shake up and bit of a pull apart before you light it...unless you're partial to a bit of roast hedgehog... Apples bake up nice as well. If you want to do sausages on sticks then a green stick won't burn so quick. Same with toast and marshmallows. Man made boards can give off noxious fumes!

One of my neigbours was smoking (a lot of) weed at the weekend. It was really quite unpleasant with it drifting across our garden. Imagine that going into your mvhr intake!

Why not get a garden incinerator and do it a bit at a time? Much safer and controllable! Pouring petrol on is asking for trouble! Usually start mine with the MAPP torch or barbecue coals. Best if the stuff is dry or it'll smoke like a b'stard! https://www.screwfix.com/p/galvanised-incinerator-bin-90ltr/51344?

I don't, waiting for the sketch! If you mean I need to redo this lot in 22mm that's going to be tiled over then it's a non starter! Surely though I can just feed each shower in 15mm direct from the TS/UVC manifold later so there's no splitting of the supply? Distances will be approx 10m from "UVC" location to downstairs shower mixer and 7m from "UVC" to the ensuite mixer. I am going to start to replace the incoming 15mm mains in 22 shortly btw ready to feed a UVC/TS. It's the one parallel & to the right of the soil. I'll at least get it to that ball valve by the branch:

The incoming hot and cold comes in vertically at the Ts, either from above where the feeds are now or from below maybe later on. I mean to turn both assemblies with the T in through 180 degrees... Sketch pls of what you mean!

Wow! All a bit sobering that.

Maybe something like this on a board between the studs. Feed at the T from above for now then invert later with new olives and feed from below:

I had two BT Home Hub 3's. My own and a second from a mate who'd gone with Sky. Simple to set the second up as a wireless access point giving better coverage. On a Home Hub 4 now and it's better than the two 3's combined tbh.

I assume you realise you need to factor in that your cabling will be rated at 50% of its current carrying capacity if surrounded by insulation for more than 500 mm of it's length?

Traditional downlighters are quite tall. They generally have minmum clearances to adhere to. There are though some coverable ones. This isn't bad to get a feel for what's what. https://www.downlights.co.uk/faq-can-i-put-loft-insulation-over-downlights-.html Why not consider slim fit ones.

Is it ok to butt a copper T straight up against an elbow like this? Should keep things neat and allow easy feeding from the bottom later. EDIT: Won't 15mm be OK? As in for now we might have to have one shower on at a time but later on I can just feed each shower from point of source (TS or UVC) with no teeing off. Btw I'm intending using these for isolation: https://www.screwfix.com/p/pegler-ball-valve-blue-15mm/11085

I like this D4 for general purpose stuff: https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p61864?

Anyone wanna buy a scissor lift? (Actually it may live on. Mate wants an underground garage for his robo mower).

Like this?

Any chance then of hiving the plumbing bits off and dumping in the other thread?

Hmmm... Got to re think the route of the shower feed pipes: Just move them to the left I guess...or rethink the lift! I reckon get the lift going as a "bolt between joists" unit then see how things feel.

You don't use dog tooth washers between abutted joists?

General plumbing's good! As you know the original plumbing here is a point-to-point f***fest! So gradually it'll all come out. The shower pump is nom 10m from those flexis above. From the ensuite shower it jumps from 15 as you can see then goes across the top of the dormer (7m) in 22. It drops back down to the shower pump in the eaves the other end where it's 15 for say the last meter. The supply to the pump is; hot in 15 all the way to the pump from a Surrey flange atop the cylinder. Cold comes from the 25gal cws in 22 then 15 for the last metre. The pump was shagged when we bought the place so replaced with the only one that said it could cope with a 25gal fed...most said 50gal min. Where I'm working now, above the new bathroom I've already done it in 15mm in the walls and then just left them poking up into the loft. I was hoping to do 15 across the loft as I've got the pipe. Something like this:

Slightly different but when my brother had his drive & patio done I insisted he trench and lay swa to replace the "1mm pyro in a scaffold pole". Probably good for 15A plus when it went in and only to run freezer and a light but he wanted heaters and all sorts and to power his astronomy shed beyond. Plus it was down to earth anyway. The paving contractor really didn't want to do it but did. In clay, the paving sank along the trench line but the guy came back and redid it foc.

So I've to come across to where they disappear into the dark with two 15mm pipes, pumped hot & cold. Feed is from the bottom of the picture. Loosely laid in a couple of "cat damaged" lengths of copper: They need to come across, under the newly elevated soil pipe and then up the side of the dormer: (Hopefully the abortion of white waste pipe will "soon" be replaced with 50mm solvent waste!) The thing is that ALL the horrible pipes that come across the top of the dormer will eventually be gone if I go for a UVC / TS which will be on the ground floor. So for now I need to pick up from these flexis for pumped hot and cold, mindful that later the feed will be from below not above. Just trying to figure a neat isolation solution before I go and buy some Pegler red & blue valves!