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Germanic OCD: wodjer mean.... Face North, bow Face South Look up Face North, bow Face South Look up Face North, bow Face South Look up

I've nearly finished the South bit of our roof. And there's 250 mm left to do...... bloody architect's made the roof too big. And Kloeber have made the felt roll too narrow. Do I really have to make a massive overlap (1.25 m) on the (in my case) bottom run of felt?

Well, I'm half Jock, half German. Directly related to Kier Hardie. Debbie's jealous as Hell. Can't apply for German citizenship because my mum was German, not my dad. Scheiße ist das. Reine Scheiße

For the battery operated camera, any of the Brinno cameras will do. I'm fairly sure that a few of us use them.

I'm inherently suspicious of treatments. It's a bit like a hairdresser asking me if I want any product on my hair. It's quite fun watching a hairdresser trying to explain what product is. Similarly, nobody down my woodyard knows what treatment is. Yet you can buy any amount of wood treatment online or from any of the sheds. Bet snake oil works better than anything.

Reading through all the guff about timber - my God there's loads about it - I am still not sure what the difference is between treated and untreated timber. Is it possible to ' ... treat ... ' timber yourself?

Here's the problem ..... and I checked earlier: I have 7 points where the scaffolding is attached to the building. Once I have loosened (but not detached) those, I'll hit the problem with my farm jack. Don't use it often, but when you need one, you need one.... Aldi first, though.... (wonder what they have in the Big Boys Toys alley?)

Thanks everyone. Weekly shopping first , then photographs.....

.... that I have put the scaffolding up too close to the wall.... so that when I come to put the first row of roof tiles on the roof, they will hit the verticals. That's buggered up my Sunday off . Take it all down, move it six inches, put it all back up. Damn! Sleep tight! Annoyed of Lancaster

And, in the context of windows, what is the difference between active and passive surveillance ? Windows don't surveil anything.

and and SWMBO keeps telling me the diplomatic equivalent of '... Oh for god's sake don't be such a wimp. It's Tinternet. People dash off comments in a hurry and don't think too much about (xyz)... ' But then she's in a job where she regularly has to say very difficult things to people who have an over-inflated sense of entitlement. My counter to that is that BH is an online environment for people who are investing massive amounts of money, effort and nervous energy. In the research-lingo: it's a High Stakes forum. Anyway, up on the roof, the sea breeze has been a God-send so far today.

Yes, @Pete, I stopped adding to that list because of the unforeseen written reactions of some. One or two people simply can't resist telling you that they bought an XYZ widget cheaper than you did. All I was trying to do was give folk a taste of what the actual costs are (as opposed to guesstimates) I just got fed up of it in the end.

Right, I get the message. @jamiehamy gave me some Tescon Profil tape when we visited him in Scotland recently. So, I'll temporarily batten. And then repair with tape. Early in the morning here is often very calm. But by 9.30 or 10.30 in this type of weather, a sea breeze gets up. It's beautiful up on the roof this morning, lovely and cool on my back: but the sun's frying my face from the reflected heat.

@jamiehamy gave me some Tescon Pro Clima Profil tape when we visited him recently. That would do - (to repair a small rip) wouldn't it? To be clear, nothing's been ripped yet.

I've done my bit for North Lancashire companies. They're all at the back of three queue now - behind online suppliers.

Excellent idea.

Anticipating the odd mishap, I nipped to my local roofing suppliers and arrive just as they are opening. Some Kloeber TR tape please.... Dun't do it mmmeeert Que? 'Ow dja fix rips in roofing felt then? Round yer, they uses Duct tape: that Kloeber stoof is too costly meeert. But the customer will never see the cost of the tape: it's £30 a roll, or something like that. Naaaaw, they wunt buyit yer. That's it: Virgin no more. I used to think that one of the key things for our build is to support local business. It's not as if I haven't had trouble with that company before.... Stuff it.

Well @Barney12, and @Russell griffiths 'taint that easy. Here's why. Slap bang in the middle of the roof is our solar PV. The battens for that are wooden. There's a few meters left and right, above and below which aren't. Those battens will be surrounded, as it were, by metal Nulock battens. The issue of falling between the rafters isn't..... an issue that is. I have been fitting counter battens for the last couple of days and walking up the roof on the rafters is now 'normal'. It's a measured risk which I have mitigated with appropriate safety gear. I have no choice I think: top to bottom and pray for light to calm conditions. If it blows, batten and then tape.

I have scoured `YooChube for how to videos without success, so I'm asking here. This is such a basic question Im almost embarrassed to ask.....? Which way round do you lay roofing felt - top to bottom or vice versa.? My roofing felt is Kloeber NG. I ask because I'm trying to avoid walking on it as I'm laying it: seems to me to be an avoidable risk. If I were to lay it bottom to top, I'd have to lay temporary battens, (so I can walk up the rafters) which would then mean sealing those holes when the battens are removed. And I'm wondering if it's possible to avoid that. I'll be laying it on my own.... So top to bottom will be a right pain. A bit easier if I get up there very early because it'll be calmer then. Ya just can't get the staff these days squire. Yours sincerely, The Roofing Virgin

Gary, if you are out of step, then there's no hope for the rest of us mate.

Relevant section from SPONS: Slab paving precast concrete paving slabs on subbase; including excavation m² 47.00 to 60.00 precast concrete tactile paving slabs on subbase; including excavation m² 68.00 to 86.00 York stone slab paving on subbase; including excavation m² 120.00 to 155.00 imitation York stone slab paving on subbase; including excavation m² 80.00 to 100.00 This.... makes me close to certain that there is a hidden agenda.

10% lower than @JSHarris's numbers here. .....IF you can get anyone to work for you that is. On Tuesday, the owner of the largest local independent BM was asking me - perfectly straight-faced - if I knew anyone who needed a job

Quick, silly question, I think the answer is yes. The rafters which forms the outside of the verge has, up to now, been 'sourced from our C16 set of rafters. But the architect's spec is for C16, and it doesn't mention ' treated ' ..... And I'm about to fit the last one, but we've run out of C16 9 by 2: tempted to fit normal , plain vanilla, PAR (9 by 2) Does the outside rafter of the verge have to be treated ?

Debbie says I'm already Action Man enough. And there's nowhere for my bubblegum

Its already magnetic. And, no: the bloody things can stay there.