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Geberit are driving me mad at the moment. So I am very grateful for this thread. They make the purchase process so difficult; it's almost as if they don't want to sell their products. If only their sales effort was as strong as their production and support.

My God they make it hard. Geberit that is. Hard to find. Try using their online Retail Partner finder. Use it at your peril. There are many differences between the offer and reality. The website claims that stockists actually stock the stuff. On the basis of what the website says, you jump in the car and visit. "Sorry, we only stock the flush-plates" That response bit me once to often. Ring the company: "Can you tell me which of your retailers actually stock what your website says it stocks, please?" "Managerial Gobbledegook" "Are you struggling to tell me that you don't know?" "Managerial Gobbledegook" "Are you trying -but failing- to say Correct, we don't know?" Long-ish silence. Dig around on the website - find the reps number. "To be honest, you aren't the first person to point this out to us" But it gets better. Postie came today ... this'll keep her quiet for a bit : I hope.

Can they really... are they allowed kick off in the light of the H&S's Fall Prevention Hierarchy?

Vielen Dank Dave! Ich hab's gefunden. Viel billiger - muss ja 10 Stuck bestellen, aber das geht in Ordnung. Aber £11 Versandkosten. Hmmm. Na ja. Spitze, Mensch! Thanks Dave. Found it. , much cheaper - need to order 10 but that's OK. But £11 postal charges. Ah well.... Tops! Ian

Theres a large price range in the offers online for tape that seals the gap between PIR insulation boards . Screwfix £3 or so, Toolstation more than double that. What's the story here? Are some tapes air-tight (and so more expensive) and others not?

Fall prevention should be considered before fall restraint. How much might be without Prevention Measures? None? Problem disappears.

Thanks very much @Cpd. Very helpful.

Not what you want to hear, sending him to the doctors was the best thing you ever did - in lots of ways.

J33 M6. Anyone can come and take mine down, polish it, and put it back up again. I'll buy a deckchair so I can watch in comfort.

Got it in one!

What a way to start the week! First thing this morning I re-read one of @JSHarris 's pearls of wisdom and realised that I should have read and remembered it a year ago because ..... Our roof has two 100mm layers of PIR between the rafters. First layer of foam put in between the rafters - all tickety boo - installed before the first floor was fitted. Second layer put in over that stonkingly hot summer, and foamed - and forgotten about. Tiles put on - thank God for that. Walk into the house, look up with relief to see the new roof keeping the rain out. Pause, look closer and swear gently. The foam had pushed the bottom layer downwards in half a dozen places. So, I've had to trim it back before underboarding with another 80mm of PIR. Low expansion foam. Who knew eh?

Perfect. The core of Durisol is a concrete lattice and a block of PIR. The rebar goes in before or during the pour. All that is surrounded by minced up wood which has been boiled, dried and covered with Portland cement. Baked, bashed into shape, dried. To all intents and purposes you can treat Durisol as a piece of wood: cut it with any saw, or chisel or angle grinder. The 'woodcrete' former (as some refer to it) is 86% air.

Waiting for experienced people like you to remind me I need to think about it.... Ermmmmm, metal back boxes, Ed ? So, if I'm having 12.5mm of plaster, and the wood bit of the Durisol is 20mm or so thick, when do I fix the box? How deep's a back box? Theres no excuse for sleep at the moment.....

Watched it last night. The editorial bias was close to obscene. Doubt we'll watch GD again. I can stand on a bridge over the M6 and watch cars crash any day.

My tortured finger configuration ? ..... 8 left, of which about 6 have feeling in them (varies a bit each day). I have heard the argument that there is more space in those metal ones....

How do I know what I want until I hear what you, @Onoff @JSHarris @Bitpipe, @jamiehamy, and others whose technical competence I have come to know and trust say? (Not forgetting SWMBO ? ) I'm sure you mean the word ' ... considered ... ' respectfully Dave. But in my case, anything electrical is a known unknown as well as an unknown unknown. This is the guy who merrily drills into a wall and wonders - months later - why a light no longer works.

Yes. Whats more clear than it was before, I have to plan as much as I can: there's no excuse for sleep anymore.

Perfik Rodders. Perfik.

Good to hear the story from the other side of the farm gate. Change the words '... they think someone else ... ' above to ' ... know that their immediate neighbours have ... ' and you'd be bang on in my case. Here's the story

John, one day we'll meet. And then you'll know. You'll politely shake your head, and go away muttering dark scottish things under your breath.

On this thread , reading between the lines, it would appear that it's common for self builders to get back boxes and noggins ( and whiskers on kittens) in the ' wrong' place(s). I do not want to pee my sparky off. (so far the only trade to do exactly what was agreed on time on budget, no moaning no fuss) Help me sparkies, please. How best should I fit the noggins? What are the noggin-gotchas? What are the back box buggerits? If there's a back box Oh-FFS, then I wanna know please. It's be-kind-to-a-sparky day today. ?

Oh dear.....? I'm going to have to watch tonight.....

I have a monthly blow-out with my mate - badly needed after this week's little 'challenges'

Thanks for posting the link. There appears to be - from my low level perspective - a fair number of self builders locally. Lets hope the event is well attended.

Welcome. I will be particularly interested in your contributions. We - with none of your expertise - embarked on a similar project. At the risk of boring you rigid, here's a list of the stuff we did in relation to our chosen ICF. Not all of it pretty either.