LA3222 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 As things stand I have had minimal electrical work carried out and am still trying to gauge what is "reasonable" when it comes to quotes. I have no issue paying a fair price but don't want to be taken for a ride and ripped off. To that end if anyone is able to give feedback on whether the following quote is reasonable it would be appreciated, I don't want to drift off topic about the actual work being undertaken - just whether the price reflects the work carried out. Ta. Supply To Caravan (£578): 1. 10mm 4core + 10mm earth 35m 2. HAGER 50A 3P MCB 3. 40A RCD in rolec caravan hook up 4. Upgrade supply into caravan CU to hardwired supply. 5. Earth rod. 6. Connections, labour, certification. Outbuilding rewire (Labour & Materials £180): 1. 20A radial supply into lean to 2. 2 x metal clad socket 3. 1 x Light and switch Labour and materials Additional sockets in caravan (£70) 1. 2 x Single Sockets If the price seems way out, what ballpark figure should I be looking at? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Sparks seem to be charging £45 an hour round here these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 That's a bit cheaper than I would have expected. (NW , Lancashire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee J Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Seems like very competitive prices, especially for the two smaller jobs. I wouldn't do it for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 To those who use Spons as a There building bible How much does Spons say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I think I said quite a while back A trade expecting a £1000 per week isn’t a fortune 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, nod said: [...] How much does Spons say The book (and the online version) don't go into all that much detail Gary. Quote Comparative fittings/rates per point Consumer control unit; 63–100 Amp 230 volt; switched and insulated; RCDB protection. Gross internal floor area (unless described other wise) nr 300.00 to 380.00 Fittings; excluding lamps or light fittings lighting point; PVC cables nr 44.00 to 55.00 lighting point; PVC cables in screwed conduits nr 51.00 to 64.00 lighting point; MICC cables nr 67.00 to 85.00 Switch socket outlet; PVC cables single nr 6.20 to 7.80 double nr 72.00 to 91.00 Switch socket outlet; PVC cables in screwed conduit single nr 83.00 to 105.00 double nr 95.00 to 120.00 Switch socket outlet; MICC cables single nr 79.00 to 100.00 double nr 92.00 to 115.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: Switch socket outlet; PVC cables single nr 6.20 to 7.80 double nr 72.00 to 91.00 singles look like really good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivienz Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 All cheaper than I paid 12 months ago for equivalent jobs on my site in Dorset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If it includes all materials and VAT then that’s a good price. Slightly bemused by the 4 core and earth to the static though - is he running 3 phase ..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA3222 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, PeterW said: If it includes all materials and VAT then that’s a good price. Slightly bemused by the 4 core and earth to the static though - is he running 3 phase ..?? Yes it is 3 phase. The cable to my van will be the garage supply eventually, hence the 4 core cable now rather than later. So, the general sense I get from all the responses is that the quote is reasonable which helps massively as I wasn't sure. Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Makes sense now ..! Is he doing it VAT free ..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvincentd Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) I'm paying £30/hr in Dorset. The entire 1st fix for my 240sqm 3 bed house has been £1200 x vat for labour so far...there's another half day to go. I did pay a further £350 all-in much earlier once the meter had gone into a cupboard on a boundary wall, to get temporary external sockets running. My 1st fix materials have been circa £800. Edited May 30, 2019 by mvincentd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA3222 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 hours ago, PeterW said: Makes sense now ..! Is he doing it VAT free ..?? Yes VAT free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA3222 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, mvincentd said: I'm paying £30/hr in Dorset. The entire 1st fix for my 240sqm 3 bed house has been £1200 x vat for labour so far...there's another half day to go. I did pay a further £350 all-in much earlier once the meter had gone into a cupboard on a boundary wall, to get temporary external sockets running. My 1st fix materials have been circa £800. This is what makes me think £800 for my job is a lot. It's only a few sockets and other bits yet your entire first fix isn't that much more (minus materials). But then everyone has said it's a fair price so as i am clueless I will go with the consensus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 We paid £1,400 (no VAT, labour only) for first and second fix for a 130m² house, with me supplying all materials and doing a fair bit of the labouring work. The breakdown was £700 for first fix labour, £700 for second fix labour. This was at 2014 prices, though, and I know that the chap has since put his rates up by about £20/day. The time taken was roughly 4 1/2 days for first fix and the same again for second fix, inspect and test. Smaller jobs are always disproportionately more expensive, as there is a fixed overhead for travel etc that probably makes larger jobs seem cheaper, in terms of cost versus number of switches/outlets.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Our spark had a spreadsheet of costs that covered first & second fix combined - broken out in terms of spotlights, downlights, switches (single, double etc..) sockets (single, double) data points etc, etc. Then single items for one offs such as heating controls, distribution etc. All based on standard materials (e.g. MK) and then adds a premium if you want to upgrade to chrome, satin etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphd1 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 How long do you think he would take to do the job, A day? Two days? Has he a good reputation for a decent job? I would be taking all this into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, LA3222 said: This is what makes me think £800 for my job is a lot. It's only a few sockets and other bits yet your entire first fix isn't that much more (minus materials). But then everyone has said it's a fair price so as i am clueless I will go with the consensus! There is near £200 of materials in the top quote alone - cable is £3.80-£4/m for that armoured 10mm. You have to remember that a job of a couple of hours breaks a day, so unless he's got 2 small jobs in close proximity then it may be costing him half a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerahill Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, LA3222 said: As things stand I have had minimal electrical work carried out and am still trying to gauge what is "reasonable" when it comes to quotes. I have no issue paying a fair price but don't want to be taken for a ride and ripped off. To that end if anyone is able to give feedback on whether the following quote is reasonable it would be appreciated, I don't want to drift off topic about the actual work being undertaken - just whether the price reflects the work carried out. Ta. Supply To Caravan (£578): 1. 10mm 4core + 10mm earth 35m 2. HAGER 50A 3P MCB 3. 40A RCD in rolec caravan hook up 4. Upgrade supply into caravan CU to hardwired supply. 5. Earth rod. 6. Connections, labour, certification. Outbuilding rewire (Labour & Materials £180): 1. 20A radial supply into lean to 2. 2 x metal clad socket 3. 1 x Light and switch Labour and materials Additional sockets in caravan (£70) 1. 2 x Single Sockets If the price seems way out, what ballpark figure should I be looking at? TIA That looks about reasonable, not cheap, but not unfair I don't think - depends how well he does the job right enough, everything properly clipped and terminated etc. that is what can consume time and drive costs up when it costs you £20 just to terminate some SWA properly. The outbuilding and sockets in the caravan seem fine. Most of the cost for the supply to the caravan is going to be the SWA itself at about £5.50 per meter - £192.50. So then say another £100 for the other bits and clips and glands and what not. Call it £300.00 in materials then he is on £278.00 for his work, I assume there is a fair bit of effort in the 35m run? Then he is a couple of hours terminating the cables, installing the board, testing etc. I would think about doing the SWA run myself if that would save money - but you must agree it with him or he may be a pain about it and refuse to sign off a cable run he has not done. Is it in a trench? Also, is the caravan supply for temporary use while you build or is the caravan a permanent install now? Edited May 30, 2019 by Carrerahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) I paid £160 including materials for a 20m long 6 mm2 3-core mains hook up to my static including fitting of a 2 circuit consumer unit in a tight cavity wall meter box currently on stilts. I laid the cable. Edit: Forgot to mention the electrician was working on a larger job at the plot next door. The shed electrical hookup was much cheaper, just materials because I did the electrical work including a service trench from static to shed, light, double socket and fused spur. The largest cost was 2.5 mm2 armoured cable, about £45 though I had 10m left over for another function. Edited May 30, 2019 by epsilonGreedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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