pritch Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Hi I'm slowly getting concerned about lifting my lintel for my new single storey rear extension. The lintel will be 7m long and weigh around 600 kg . A crane is an option , but at £500 plus vat I'm looking at other alternatives. I have no experience lifting this kind of weight and I'm not really sure if it can be man handled with a bunch of guys. Thanks Edited April 8, 2019 by pritch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 7m ? But a pair of genie lifts should do it if you have the space below. https://www.lakeside-hire.co.uk/genie-lift-sla-hire/ 600 kilo is a lot to manhandle we had 6 blokes on a 350kilo steel recently and none of us enjoyed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedreamer Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I think that would be too heavy to man handle. What about a digger or telehandler? Our steel beam was lifted with a telehander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Our 11 metre Kerto beam was lifted gracefully by the builders 13t digger with a boom extension. do you have anything similar available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennentslager Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 14 people could do it comfortably if they were directed and did as they were told when they were told immediately and without debate. Hands on... lift...lift up, said the old soldier. it is possible but I’m not really being serious, that’s a lot of weight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I have this to do next week 10570 long just under 600kg got to go up 3.6 m in the air we intend sliding it on rollers made of scaffolding tube through the door, pushing it with the digger, we will then use two of the gennie lifts to lift it up, we will build a steel scaffolding tower under the beam as we lift it, installing a new lift every 600mm we lift it up, just in case of any mishaps. But I consider mine easy, House is not built, access is huge, and I have done this many times if you have limited experience with this I would find somebody to help you with the relevant experience who has half a dozen mates to help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedreamer Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Here is one of our 3 x Kerto (much shorter than 11 meters ?) being lifted into place. Weather seems to be good when these are lifted into place! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedreamer Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: I have this to do next week 10570 long just under 600kg got to go up 3.6 m in the air we intend sliding it on rollers made of scaffolding tube through the door, pushing it with the digger, we will then use two of the gennie lifts to lift it up, we will build a steel scaffolding tower under the beam as we lift it, installing a new lift every 600mm we lift it up, just in case of any mishaps. But I consider mine easy, House is not built, access is huge, and I have done this many times if you have limited experience with this I would find somebody to help you with the relevant experience who has half a dozen mates to help. How does the cost compare to hiring a telehandler with jib to hiring two genie lifts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphd1 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Your looking at approx 420kg for the box section. What height do you need to lift it to? A genie lift approx £90 a week each, We also hired a telenhandler for a week for £200 plus vat when installing the windows. Travis perkins also hire genie lifts. Edited April 8, 2019 by Alexphd1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 10.5 metre steel, my Dad and I hired a couple of Genies, very near the 4.8m height limit. A little sketchy but get organised, go slow and its done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thedreamer said: How does the cost compare to hiring a telehandler with jib to hiring two genie lifts? Telehandler just hasn’t got the reach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphd1 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 How is the steel being delivered? If del lorry has haib could they lift into place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 @JamesP do you know what yours weighed, and what the capacity of the lifts was i was going to use two lifts rated at 350kg each, my beam is aprox 630kg I’m wondering how close to there limit they will be i had thought of using 3 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphd1 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Genie lifts are excellent bits of kit but need a flat smooth surface to work on. Think approx 19m I beam @ 7m height with 3x genie lifts. Edited April 8, 2019 by Alexphd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Word of warning though. Genie lifts do wobble a bit when they are high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: @JamesP do you know what yours weighed, and what the capacity of the lifts was i was going to use two lifts rated at 350kg each, my beam is aprox 630kg I’m wondering how close to there limit they will be i had thought of using 3 ?? I think weight was about 390kg. As @Construction Channel said they do wobble. We hired 2 x SL18. Max load 295kg each and height 5.6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Bloody hell @Alexphd1 that must have been proper arse twitchy. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Alexphd1 said: Genie lifts are excellent bits of kit but need a flat smooth surface to work on. Think approx 19m I beam @ 7m height with 3x genie lifts. Think I'd bottle it at this. Way to top heavy for my liking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) Do you (or a local friend) need anything else doing with a crane at the same time? Could you hire a 1t spider crane? eg £200 per day https://www.coppard.co.uk/pages/cranes/unic-094.php https://www.coppard.co.uk/pages/cranes/unic-095.php Edited April 9, 2019 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Alexphd1 said: Genie lifts are excellent bits of kit but need a flat smooth surface to work on. Think approx 19m I beam @ 7m height with 3x genie lifts. How did you do that with a genie lift? The ridge beam must be longer than the gap between the gable ends so won't fit inside the gable ends to be hoisted up. Unless you hoisted it diagonal and them moved the genie lifts with it up there? That sounds a bit dodgy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphd1 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Tbh it was pretty straight forward. Two lifts where enough weight wise so the third was used for manoeuvring. Manoevring the lifts on the polished slab was very easy. The the middle lift turned the opposite way, this firmed up for wobbling. We lifted and moved the beam up the 45' gable. When the steel was in place plus 3x genie lifts supporting we lifted the support box section into place with chain blocks. Doing it this way gave us time to cut and prep supporting steel etc ourselves. There was no access for a telehandler and to be honest I don't know if there room for a crane. Although looks dodgy in pictures it was a pretty smooth operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pritch Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Hi Thanks for the replies. My biggest problem is access. The rsj needs to be moved down the side of my house (6ft gap) through into the back garden before I even think about lifting it. I first thought around 8 men could manage it, but after reading about people moving similar weights I don't think it's possible. I think I may have to bite the bullet and look at booking a crane:( I might also buy a jacuzzi to get my monies worth out of the crane Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 minute ago, pritch said: Hi Thanks for the replies. My biggest problem is access. The rsj needs to be moved down the side of my house (6ft gap) through into the back garden before I even think about lifting it. I first thought around 8 men could manage it, but after reading about people moving similar weights I don't think it's possible. I think I may have to bite the bullet and look at booking a crane:( I might also buy a jacuzzi to get my monies worth out of the crane Thanks Is this a new build, have you got a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijay Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 there was a post on here (could have been one I started) where someone posted about using trolleys to move RSJ/beams, that may get it into place and then use a genie lift or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 So my beam turned up today bloody hell its huge, I hope I haven’t made a massive boo boo as it’s a feature in my front room ?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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