November 1, 20178 yr Hi All Can anyone share any advise on the construction of a ‘dropped ceiling’ feature? I’m quite liking the idea of having a dropped area above the kitchen island which would be lit in the recess/top as well as the face. My my current thoughts are: 1. Screw support/carrier timbers to the ceiling joists. 2. Board and plaster to an area at least 150mm inside the are of the drop (so you can’t see space above the drop). 3. Create a very simple timber frame and screw it to the carriers. 4. Board and plaster the drop. Things im still pondering: 1. I guess it would be easier to get the LED,s arround the perimeter in place before the boards go up? 2. How big should it be? Slightly smaller than the island area?? 3. How deep should it be. My ceilings are standard 2400mm so I’m thinking no Moreno than 100mm? 4. How big should the gap between the drop and the ceiling be. Again point 3. relates. Perhaps no more than 50mm? Any thoughts, advise, input hugely appreciated.
November 1, 20178 yr Author 3 hours ago, Ferdinand said: Suspended ceiling components? Do you mean wires etc?
November 1, 20178 yr I made mine out of a stud frame. Was screwed to the joist from below. Mine was then boarded in MDF so was easy to give a light sand to and then paint over it. I made mine the same size of the island. I have a 25mm ledge around mine that the led lights fit. I also put 6 downlights in mine to shine onto the island.
November 2, 20178 yr 17 hours ago, Barney12 said: Do you mean wires etc? I was thinking that a full wooden frame might be overkill, and that an ally or even plastic frame might do it. Essentially you want a light fitting 50-100mm deep the same size as your island. I was thinking about the lightness of structure that is used for suspended ceilings, and this sort of thing (from a quick Google), which is a shallow enclosure for panel-LEDs. This one is about £22, and easier to put up than a wooden frame. Not an area I know, but I expect that custom versions and various sizes / colours / finishes are available: Quote Product description This Surface Kit for LED Panels is made up of 4 aluminium profiles that allow us to install LED panels in places where the ceiling is not removable or false. It can be used for 120x30cm panels. Edited November 2, 20178 yr by Ferdinand
November 3, 20178 yr I have one of these to be built. I would just check the depth if you plan to put an extractor hood in it as I was shocked to find that Siemens island hoods are 299mm tall which is taller than I planned for the dropped ceiling.
November 3, 20178 yr Author 2 hours ago, AliG said: I have one of these to be built. I would just check the depth if you plan to put an extractor hood in it as I was shocked to find that Siemens island hoods are 299mm tall which is taller than I planned for the dropped ceiling. Thankfully no extractor going in. I’d bang my head on the dropped section if it was
November 6, 20178 yr https://www.houzz.co.uk/photo/5537422-astro-designs-contemporary-kitchen-and-bathroom-design-contemporary-kitchen-ottawa
November 7, 20178 yr Author 8 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: Any good to you. I use that site all the time has so many ideas in one place. Thanks. Some good inspiration in there.
December 14, 20178 yr Author Thought I'd update my thread. Stupidly forgot to take photo's of all the construction phase but its now in and ready to be skimmed tomorrow. The RGBW LED strip has been installed in advance as it was easier to fit that before screwing up to the frame and boarding. Another job where the plasterboard lifter was invaluable.
December 14, 20178 yr This should go in the boffins corner. But not for the first time I have a scrap lcd tv with a broken screen. The LED backlights and all the difusers from it would make a pretty good lighting lcd flat panel. If only I could make it not look like a scrap tv stuck to the ceiling......
December 14, 20178 yr given the price these days (cpc are doing 600x600 40w for £22.50 plus vat) would it not be as handy just to buy office panels?
December 14, 20178 yr Got to love a plasterboard lifter! These drop downs are always an interesting challenge for plasterers
December 14, 20178 yr Git! Just wondering if it would work fitting my ceiling body dryer in the bathroom in a dropped ceiling feature. Might save me doing a complicated insulation feature above.
December 14, 20178 yr 14 minutes ago, Onoff said: Git! Just wondering if it would work fitting my ceiling body dryer in the bathroom in a dropped ceiling feature. Might save me doing a complicated insulation feature above. I think you want a device to turn your shower cubicle into one of those air-fly towers. Body drying would come for free.
December 14, 20178 yr Author 3 hours ago, Luckylad said: Got to love a plasterboard lifter! These drop downs are always an interesting challenge for plasterers LOL. Yes my plasterer was completely lost by what I wanted. Even my sketch on the back of an envelope left him scratching his head. I had the ceiling skimmed first, plus the drop down outer reveal. I then put the drop frame up and boarded it (as per above picture) He’s coming in the morning to skim that and a few last bits.
February 14, 20188 yr Author Looking pretty now its plastered and painted. Edited February 14, 20188 yr by Barney12
February 15, 20188 yr Author 1 hour ago, vivienz said: That looks very pretty indeed. Thank you. I'll try and remember to do a little video of the 'sound to light' disco mode
February 15, 20188 yr 40 minutes ago, Barney12 said: Thank you. I'll try and remember to do a little video of the 'sound to light' disco mode You gonna throw sum shapes?
November 16, 20196 yr Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I am looking to create the reverse of this island feature in a couple of rooms with a lower border around the edge of the ceiling and a raised and illuminated centre. In the main, open plan living area the raised section will only be in the seating area with the lower ceiling running through the kitchen and dining area. I'm trying to decide what proportions would look correct (how much drop, inset etc) and what details I need to think about for the construction. Would the LED strips to illuminate the ceiling be better on the vertical part or on the horizontal lip? Does anyone have any photos of this type of feature during construction or a cross sectional drawing?
November 16, 20196 yr @DaveH @vivienz did this kind of thing. Not sure if it is what you are aiming for...
November 18, 20196 yr On 16/11/2019 at 17:15, Mr Punter said: @DaveH @vivienz did this kind of thing. Not sure if it is what you are aiming for... Exactly that @Mr Punter Top man!
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