JohnBishop Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Hi All, I have to replace the glass units in my 1st floor windows and because it's the old school, the beads are outside. I have to get to the window from the outside. I think the ladder is to risky to work on, I think I buy this tower scaffolding. I have seen some scaffolding made of aluminium and also a scaffold on wheels. If I get the guys to do it it will cost me £600 to replace 4 units (or more!) while if I do it myself it will be £300 for the scaffolding + cost of the units + my time of course. What do you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 I bought a cheap (£600) scaffold tower, makes doing anything outside easy. Takes me an hour to put it up, half that to take it down, fits in the car and I store it under the stairs in a self made box. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 2 hours ago, SteamyTea said: I bought a cheap (£600) scaffold tower, makes doing anything outside easy. Takes me an hour to put it up, half that to take it down, fits in the car and I store it under the stairs in a self made box. is this something like this? I mean you paid twice as much so it must be a different scaffold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) I had a tower like that for years and very handy for a great number of jobs, however it’s safer to use a ladder as well to climb it. Edited August 20 by joe90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 I also come across this aluminium one but I reckon this one is more likely to topple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JohnBishop said: more likely to topple It has wide feet so I doubt it, mine was square at 4ft and steel, much cheaper than aluminium ones. https://www.ladders-999.co.uk/domestic-steel-towers.html Edited August 20 by joe90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 All scaffold will wobble and risk falling over if you push it to extremes. I bought a load of Kwikstage when building my house, and when I sold it, I kept enough to scaffold one wall of my house. the scaffold lives on a rack in my garden and the boards are stored dry in a custom made enclosure under a raised decking area outside the back door. Much more heavy and needs 2 to assemble it compared to a lightweight tower. But even that needs some bracing at height. You can see in this picture scaffold up the gable wall and the square frame sticking out towards you in this photograph exists just to give it some more bracing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 when it topples should I hold onto the window sill or aim for the nearby hedge? 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 I can get a galvanised steel tower for £285 or this aluminium (used but like new) one for £300. The tower has a much higher work height I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Mine is similar to this one. Wide feet and outriggers. https://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers.co.uk/scaffold-towers/diy-scaffold-towers/home-master-diy-scaffold-tower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH243 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 9 hours ago, JohnBishop said: I also come across this aluminium one but I reckon this one is more likely to topple. We have this one it is fine just get a couple of out riggers which I think the tall ones come with. Even at nearly 5m it is fairly stable and simple to put together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 dont DIY scaffold. rent a tower, last one i had from jewsons was £40 for a weekend delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowCarbonLiving Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Hi All, Very new to the forums so a warm hello to all. I've been thinking of buying scaffolding as well to install solar panels. My main thought, train yourself well in putting them up securely, and using them safely. DIY is fun, at height, it's automatically dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, LowCarbonLiving said: Hi All, Very new to the forums so a warm hello to all. I've been thinking of buying scaffolding as well to install solar panels. My main thought, train yourself well in putting them up securely, and using them safely. DIY is fun, at height, it's automatically dangerous. Buy a system scaffold like Kwikstage, Cuplock or I am sure there are a few others which are really a scaffold tower system with infinite possibilities from a single tower to a long run of scaffold. I would not for DIY buy conventional plain tubes and clamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 On 20/08/2024 at 12:17, JohnBishop said: when it topples It is easy to fix an anchor into the wall. I like the ones which are a threaded fixing left in the wall, and a screwed-in eye. You shouldn't need it if the feet are on a solid base, but it stops any wobble and adds confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowCarbonLiving Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Many thanks for the Kwikstage tip. This is most likely what I'll be getting, with optional safety attachments, and a few hours worth of safety training videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 And you'll sell it for what you paid .... if you can bear to part with it. I can't. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, ToughButterCup said: And you'll sell it for what you paid .... if you can bear to part with it. I can't. Yet. I sold some, but kept enough to scaffold one wall of the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 On 20/08/2024 at 16:21, SteamyTea said: Mine is similar to this one. Wide feet and outriggers. https://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers.co.uk/scaffold-towers/diy-scaffold-towers/home-master-diy-scaffold-tower I am looking into these aluminium 5m high scaffold towers and I cannot decide between Master DIY https://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers.co.uk/scaffold-towers/diy-scaffold-towers/home-master-diy-scaffold-tower and Premium https://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers.co.uk/scaffold-towers/diy-scaffold-towers/premium-diy-scaffold-towers There is about £80 difference in price. I reckon the difference is the Premium has this quick assembly with no tools needed. The area I have available I am not sure these square scaffold towers are practical but definitely more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonner Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I bought a second hand MiTower (5m, 2 person) on FB, very solid and stable. Not cheap but should get back what I paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bonner said: I bought a second hand MiTower (5m, 2 person) on FB, very solid and stable. Not cheap but should get back what I paid for it. right, I broke my back in the past and I am a bit hesitant to work from a platform that is not stable. This aluminium has certain advantages e.g. it's lightweight, does not rust but the whole scaffold is only 25kg. I am going to use it to remove the glass units from windows at about 4m so it's not like wall painting at a height. I am looking for some scaffold towers on Facebook Marketplace in the area but I don't see anything interesting apart from a bunch of scaffold hires and the guy selling these square steel scaffold towers for £285 but I need to get the boards on top of that and this also needs a ladder to climb it. Ideally I would want to climb one before I buy it. Edited September 4 by JohnBishop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuerteStu Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) Remember the difference between height of platform and working height. Some access is described as being 3m platform, but gives you a realistic reach of 4.5m. I see lots of people paying for towers and plant that's way bigger than needed. Edited September 4 by FuerteStu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 9 minutes ago, FuerteStu said: Remember the difference between height of platform and working height. Some access is described as being 3m platform, but gives you a realistic reach of 4.5m. I see lots of people paying for towers and plant that's way bigger than needed. Master DIY and Premium 5m ones have a platform at 3m, working height is 4.7-5m and this is within the height I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 On 20/08/2024 at 12:17, JohnBishop said: when it topples should I hold onto the window sill or aim for the nearby hedge? 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBishop Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Ferdinand said: while on the scaffold I would have to leave the jetpack on idle in case of an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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