joe90 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Just checking the electrics to my new workshop and I came across this in an outhouse, wiring to the workshop STARTS in a socket, then it’s fed from an existing socket in the outhouse and connected by this…… beggars belief. Trust me I am all for DIY as long as you have some basic knowledge at least. No wonder there are regs. It stops people being killed. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattg4321 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Come across a few of these over the years. Commonly known in the trade as a widow maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, joe90 said: Just checking the electrics to my new workshop and I came across this in an outhouse, wiring to the workshop STARTS in a socket, then it’s fed from an existing socket in the outhouse and connected by this…… beggars belief. Trust me I am all for DIY as long as you have some basic knowledge at least. No wonder there are regs. It stops people being killed. Looks good too me 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Also known as a generator power cut adapter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 At least my own one has a switched plug at one end. (cough) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Fool proof, 1 black plug, 1 white plug follow the SOP and away you go, it’s even got new fancy sleeved pins! I should rip out my changeover switch😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 8, 2023 Author Share Posted August 8, 2023 Oh, just found the first socket is supplied by a 3 pin plug in the kitchen (13 amp fuse) and a fancy consumer unit in the workshop has a 63 amp incomer 🙄. I liked my new build, at least I knew it was all wired properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jimbo Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Several times i have found the "added extra socket" cut into an existing ring. One end into One ring, and the other into a different ring. Turn the fuse off. Still live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, Big Jimbo said: Several times i have found the "added extra socket" cut into an existing ring. One end into One ring, and the other into a different ring. Turn the fuse off. Still live. Oh yes, when I bought this place (re wired a few years before) separate upstairs and downstairs rings .. great! Pity the ends were swapped over so the ends of both rings went into separate fuses … took some working out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 hours ago, joe90 said: h, just found the first socket is supplied by a 3 pin plug in the kitchen (13 amp fuse) and a fancy consumer unit in the workshop has a 63 amp incomer 🙄. I liked my new build, at least I knew it was all wired properly. You must have had the motivation to leave and move north and a bit east - to become one of the forest dwellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 8, 2023 Author Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said: You must have had the motivation to leave Not really, a judge decided for me 🥹, ( it’s nice to be nearer family now, and the Forest is great). Edited August 8, 2023 by joe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Mattg4321 said: Commonly known in the trade as a widow maker. One of the guys at work once made an extension lead like that, shocked the boss. 13 hours ago, Big Jimbo said: Several times i have found the "added extra socket" cut into an existing ring. One end into One ring, and the other into a different ring. Turn the fuse off. Still live. I got caught out like that, took ages to work out what was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 hours ago, markc said: Oh yes, when I bought this place (re wired a few years before) separate upstairs and downstairs rings .. great! Pity the ends were swapped over so the ends of both rings went into separate fuses … took some working out. I had one a bit like that. Wanted to turn a circuit off for a repair. Shiny new CU but nothing labelled. Turned off the MCB's one at a tiime but my circuit did not go dead. It turned out which ever "haven't got a clue" changed the CU but each end of both rings into their own 32A MCB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 09/08/2023 at 08:37, ProDave said: I had one a bit like that. Wanted to turn a circuit off for a repair. Shiny new CU but nothing labelled. Turned off the MCB's one at a tiime but my circuit did not go dead. It turned out which ever "haven't got a clue" changed the CU but each end of both rings into their own 32A MCB. That’s just a shortcut to ‘resilience’ isn’t it? 🫣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuerteStu Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 08/08/2023 at 16:59, joe90 said: Just checking the electrics to my new workshop and I came across this in an outhouse, wiring to the workshop STARTS in a socket, then it’s fed from an existing socket in the outhouse and connected by this…… beggars belief. Trust me I am all for DIY as long as you have some basic knowledge at least. No wonder there are regs. It stops people being killed. When viewing rental properties a few years back, we found a neighbour has plugged one of these from shed to shed at the bottle of the garden to pinch power. When I asked if there was a condition report done, the agent said "yes of course we've got the same guy checking all our properties".. "then I won't be renting any of your properties" I replied. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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