zoothorn Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 How do I fix these two outer timbers together at the back here? Hangers will only go on one side. (I am cladding these outer sides with another 6x2 later so fix won't be seen).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I'd just set the end ones in a bit and use another joist hanger. Much stronger detail that what you've drawn. Then add some "2x2" packs and face with another 6x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) Let's hope your first resin anchor doesn't clash! 😂 Edited August 11, 2022 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Onoff said: Let's hope your first resin anchor doesn't clash! 😂 No shouldn't do. That's a good idea.. understood. The surity of the doubling of boards on the sides though.. might be a bit compromised? Id prefer them as my yellow drawing, if there's a way. Could I bend the LH hanger wing back.. & fix to side of ledger? ---- Got my two 6x6 posts, hangers & twisty nails. And the front 6x2. So I aim to get the outer 4 sided frame up today & tmrw. But I need to go over what the posts are anchored to 1st. A few ideas before. One thing to bear in mind, my posts are just shy of 7ft.. & to the top of my ledger.. is 7ft. No other 6x6 posts in town you see. So I have to probably sit them up 2" on a pad of somesort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 @zoothorn I’m lost here … you’re building a balcony not a bridge !! It doesn’t need 6x4 on each side ..!! If you have bought 6x6 posts, measure them and inset the first joist by the same amount. Then “sandwich” the post between this one and the new outer 6x2. Will be very strong as the post will be supported 3 sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Just now, PeterW said: @zoothorn I’m lost here … you’re building a balcony not a bridge !! It doesn’t need 6x4 on each side ..!! If you have bought 6x6 posts, measure them and inset the first joist by the same amount. Then “sandwich” the post between this one and the new outer 6x2. Will be very strong as the post will be supported 3 sides. You'd best do a drawing! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Do what I sketched, don't have the outer 6x2 and skin the outer 3 sides with white upvc fascia instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, PeterW said: @zoothorn I’m lost here … you’re building a balcony not a bridge !! It doesn’t need 6x4 on each side ..!! If you have bought 6x6 posts, measure them and inset the first joist by the same amount. Then “sandwich” the post between this one and the new outer 6x2. Will be very strong as the post will be supported 3 sides. But you must take into account future expansion. A bridge , a swimming pool , helicopter landing pad . 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, pocster said: a swimming pool Just because you have one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: Just because you have one! Planning ahead is the key . Like pv , batteries 😁😁😁😁😁 . Being a smug git again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Offered up ledger to see what's what, tapped it once & stuck.. so had to continue. Alot of sledging to get on. So good results, firm as hell. Level. RHS plumb, LHS slightly off. So I'll have to get joist hangers on like so. Middle 3 joist hangers can't even fix to the ledger top tho.. cill in the way. Zh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Its on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Still mulling my outer ones. Actually @PeterW do you think I can bend a joist hanger around the side? Reason for doubling 6x2 to 6x4.. is cosmetic only, ie the outer one clads over the side hanger 'wing' if my idea is any good. Thanks, zh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 😂 Keep asking people until you get the answer you want! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Loving y Ddraig Goch facing your direction. Are your neighbours trying to tell you something? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Onoff said: Loving y Ddraig Goch facing your direction. Are your neighbours trying to tell you something? 😂 you're living in Wales, just in case you didn't realise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Simplysimon said: you're living in Wales, just in case you didn't realise No one “ lives “ in Wales - bodies just exist there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, pocster said: No one “ lives “ in Wales - bodies just exist there I beg to differ, some top totty in the Utah Saints Something Good video.. .very much alive. I've always had a thing for the young Ruth Maddox too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Onoff said: Loving y Ddraig Goch facing your direction. Are your neighbours trying to tell you something? 😂 New n'bors, young farmer couple, nice to me actually. So far. No. The flags ( this one I deliberately included in the photo) are to do with Eisteddfod 2022, very locally to us this year. The assumption was... they were doing it at me? After my serious trials for 5-1/2 years here Onoff, I'll let that insinuation slide. Any thoughts on my work today? Hard graft that with sun beating on my neck. I hope I made a good start. Really grateful for the metal bits Onoff. Zh Edited August 11, 2022 by zoothorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, zoothorn said: Any thoughts on my work today? See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) Yes @zoothorn, good progress, slow but steady 👍. I do think @Onoffsuggestion above about the end hangers being inboard and extra board on spacers is the best and neatest suggestion. Question….are you using decking boards fir the “floor”?, if so the extra board suggested could be wider and cover the end Grain of the decking boards 🤷♂️ Edited August 11, 2022 by joe90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I'd still be worried about the 3 hangers under the cill not hooking over the top of the ledger. You might be able to skew a screw up from the bottom at 45deg or screw some neat plates up from underneath... What way are your decking boards running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Onoff said: What way are your decking boards running? Must be lengthwise as the support timbers are opposite 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, joe90 said: Must be lengthwise as the support timbers are opposite 🤷♂️ Oh yeah! 😂 Even more important those supports are secure on the ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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