Russell griffiths Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 So like most things in life I seam to be going full circle on choices so im looking for recommendations for quality shower valves, must be fully concealed and good build and maintainability. Cheers. Bored from bored town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDIY Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I could have written exactly the same post. Laid up with sciatica and can't work on house is making me look at buying stuff. The decisions are sometimes harder than the 'doing'. Also looking for concealed shower valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I’ve found Matki to be pretty good quality. Lasted well in a rental property and their customer service was excellent the one time I need something. Turns out their office/warehouse is not far from me, so I drove over to pick up a replacement part and they gave me a complete shower and a load of accessories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 A few of us have the Hudson Reed Reign: https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/hudson-reed-reign-triple-concealed-thermostatic-shower-valve-round-plate-rei3411? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 If feeling rich.. Both Swadling and Perrin & Rowe make premium price and quality mixer valves. Massive lumps of machined brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Looking at the one @Onoff mentioned I started to read up on the operating Manuel it states in the manual that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. Any thoughts anybody. @Nickfromwales And @PeterW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Temp said: If feeling rich.. Both Swadling and Perrin & Rowe make premium price and quality mixer valves. Massive lumps of machined brass. Cor some of that Perrin stuff is expensive?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Looking at the one @Onoff mentioned I started to read up on the operating Manuel it states in the manual that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. Any thoughts anybody. @Nickfromwales And @PeterW Not sure, @ProDave has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 You can run separate non blended feeds to showers, or run different blenders for showers and baths vs basins but it all starts to get a bit silly tbh. Upward of 48°C and most showers tend to run ok anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 @PeterW this is all coming from the hep 2 O and hot return saga, when we all discussed that hep was ok on a hot return as it’s blended down and is run around the pipe work at a lower temperature, that’s all good, but are we going to run into problems with shower valves wanting a higher input temp. Might need to wait for @Nickfromwales to sober up to get some input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Looking at the one @Onoff mentioned I started to read up on the operating Manuel it states in the manual that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. Any thoughts anybody. @Nickfromwales And @PeterW Mine is working just fine with 48 degree hot water feed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 @Russell griffiths you’ll be waiting til 3rd Jan as he’s probably on his 5th crate of ale ... 48°C is about the lowest I would go on a blending valve - just have to watch any bath feeds as they should be lower than that but you can do it at the bath taps (or feed from the shower valve ...) if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 @PeterW one of these valves will be for the bath, it will operate a spout and a wand, so no problem there, I just want them to work if the input temp is low coming from the cylinder. He is probably unconscious at home as he’s ignoring my witty text messages today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Fitted the diverter version of one of these and was impressed. https://www.showerstoyou.co.uk/pioneer-minimalist-lever-twin-concealed-thermostatic-shower-valve/ 10 year warranty, U.K. made but also the valve body is made of composite so not ridiculously heavy or made of cheap Chinese “brass”... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 As long as there’s cold pressure presented at the cold inlet, the thermostatic cartridge will perform all the way down to the low / mid 30’s. You’ll be fine. Plus, the showers / baths won’t be on the HRC so they can have full bore hot from the cylinder ( or other hot water device..... ). Anti-scald ( zero water output from valve in that situation ) only kicks in if the cold is isolated / fails for whatever reason. 2 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: He is probably unconscious at home as he’s ignoring my witty text messages today. Wallpapering the daughters bedroom atm, and the jury is out on witty lol. Minimal ale input atm as the pattern is a bastard to match up. 3 different batches of paper didn’t help, but that’s what you get when you buy paper 3 days before Xmas. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan F Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 28/12/2020 at 17:08, Russell griffiths said: it states in the manual that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. The Grohe thermostatic mixers we'll be using say: "Hot water temperature at supply connection min. 2 °C higher than mixed water temperature" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Roper Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 fan of HG myself https://www.hansgrohe.co.uk/bathroom/products/thermostatic-valves/showers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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