Shower valve recommendations

[Russell griffiths]

So like most things in life I seam to be going full circle on choices

so im looking for recommendations for quality shower valves, must be fully concealed and good build and maintainability. 

 

Cheers. Bored from bored town. 

[JFDIY]

I could have written exactly the same post. Laid up with sciatica and can't work on house is making me look at buying stuff. The decisions are sometimes harder than the 'doing'.

 

Also looking for concealed shower valve.

[Gav_P]

I’ve found Matki to be pretty good quality. Lasted well in a rental property and their customer service was excellent the one time I need something. Turns out their office/warehouse is not far from me, so I drove over to pick up a replacement part and they gave me a complete shower and a load of accessories. 

[Onoff]

A few of us have the Hudson Reed Reign:

 

https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/hudson-reed-reign-triple-concealed-thermostatic-shower-valve-round-plate-rei3411?

[Temp]

If feeling rich.. Both Swadling and Perrin & Rowe make premium price and quality mixer valves. Massive lumps of machined brass. 

 

 

[Russell griffiths]

Looking at the one @Onoff mentioned I started to read up on the operating Manuel 

 

it states in the manual  that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. 

 

Any thoughts anybody. @Nickfromwales And @PeterW  

[Russell griffiths]

19 minutes ago, Temp said:

If feeling rich.. Both Swadling and Perrin & Rowe make premium price and quality mixer valves. Massive lumps of machined brass. 

 

 

Cor some of that Perrin stuff is expensive??

[Onoff]

3 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said:

Looking at the one @Onoff mentioned I started to read up on the operating Manuel 

 

it states in the manual  that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. 

 

Any thoughts anybody. @Nickfromwales And @PeterW  

 

Not sure, @ProDave has one.

[PeterW]

You can run separate non blended feeds to showers, or run different blenders for showers and baths vs basins but it all starts to get a bit silly tbh. Upward of 48°C and most showers tend to run ok anyway. 

[Russell griffiths]

@PeterW  this is all coming from the hep 2 O and hot return saga, when we all discussed that hep was ok on a hot return as it’s blended down and is run around the pipe work at a lower temperature, that’s all good, but are we going to run into problems with shower valves wanting a higher input temp. 

 

Might need to wait for @Nickfromwales to sober up to get some input. 

[ProDave]

26 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said:

Looking at the one @Onoff mentioned I started to read up on the operating Manuel 

 

it states in the manual  that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. 

 

Any thoughts anybody. @Nickfromwales And @PeterW  

Mine is working just fine with 48 degree hot water feed.

[PeterW]

@Russell griffiths you’ll be waiting til 3rd Jan as he’s probably on his 5th crate of ale ...

 

48°C is about the lowest I would go on a blending valve - just have to watch any bath feeds as they should be lower than that but you can do it at the bath taps (or feed from the shower valve ...) if needed. 

[Russell griffiths]

@PeterW one of these valves will be for the bath, it will operate a spout and a wand, so no problem there, I just want them to work if the input temp is low coming from the cylinder. 

 

He is probably unconscious at home as he’s ignoring my witty text messages today. 

[PeterW]

Fitted the diverter version of one of these and was impressed. 

 

https://www.showerstoyou.co.uk/pioneer-minimalist-lever-twin-concealed-thermostatic-shower-valve/

 

10 year warranty, U.K. made but also the valve body is made of composite  so not ridiculously heavy or made of cheap Chinese “brass”...

 

[Nickfromwales]

As long as there’s cold pressure presented at the cold inlet, the thermostatic cartridge will perform all the way down to the low / mid 30’s. 
You’ll be fine. Plus, the showers / baths won’t be on the HRC so they can have full bore hot from the cylinder ( or other hot water device..... ). Anti-scald ( zero water output from valve in that situation ) only kicks in if the cold is isolated / fails for whatever reason. 
 

2 hours ago, Russell griffiths said:

He is probably unconscious at home as he’s ignoring my witty text messages today. 

Wallpapering the daughters bedroom atm, and the jury is out on witty lol. Minimal ale input atm as the pattern is a bastard to match up. 3 different batches of paper didn’t help, but that’s what you get when you buy paper 3 days before Xmas. ?

[Dan F]

 

On 28/12/2020 at 17:08, Russell griffiths said:

it states in the manual  that the valve requires 60 degree water input, now as far as I’m aware my hot will be getting blended down before it reaches the shower valves. 

 

The Grohe thermostatic mixers we'll be using say:

 

"Hot water temperature at supply connection min. 2 °C higher than mixed water temperature"

[Pocster]

Roper Rhodes 

[Dave Jones]

fan of HG myself

 

https://www.hansgrohe.co.uk/bathroom/products/thermostatic-valves/showers