Lining a wall with plywood: how thick should the ply be?

[Alex C]

  On 29/06/2019 at 07:28, Russell griffiths said:

No idea, I’m still looking for it in this backwards stuck in the dark ages country. 

Readily available in the states and Australia. 

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Google search?

 

https://www.qic-trims.com/product-category/dry-lining-trims/

[Onoff]

  On 28/06/2019 at 21:55, Pete said:

What is this profile called please?

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shadowFIX brackets?

[mvincentd]

I'm also doing this in a few areas and will mostly use visible fasteners and make a feature of them.  Something useful i'd not been aware of until seeing them (at 6:55) in this video is screws with reversing threads at the top, which enable balancing any thickness variances that might throw the flush faces of adjacent panels off.

 

 

[Alfow]

  On 28/06/2019 at 09:51, AnonymousBosch said:

Lining a wall with plywood isn't as easy as it looks, I'm sure.  But then nothing else in house building is either. 

We are considering lining some walls with ply. The substrate for the ply will be battens fixed on concrete - perfectly rigid, therefore. 

 

Question is, how thick should the ply be?

Thanks,

Ian

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We used 12mm sanded then danish oiled. We’re pleased with the effect. 

[Alfow]

  On 28/06/2019 at 12:29, Mr Punter said:

 

As long as it is less than 50% of floor area it is OK, so a feature wall, not the whole room.

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Is this 50% of the floor area of the room it is in or 50% of the whole house? 

I am having this ‘discussion ‘ about  flame spread with BCO at the moment. 

[SiBee]

You guys building will be far too busy?but the gym we frequent is lined like this. They have used a block patten with large sheets butted up and each edge is chamfered if memory serves.  Looks crap but each to their own eh?The door arcs are the same.

oh, it’s JD gym and I image each site is the same decor.

Could take some pics in a couple of weeks if anyone is interested in the detail. In St. Ives at the minute so can’t get there just yet.

[SteamyTea]

  On 29/06/2019 at 09:21, SiBee said:

In St. Ives at the minute

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Which one?  The warm sunny place, or the one in Cornwall?

[Mr Punter]

  On 29/06/2019 at 08:38, Alfow said:

Is this 50% of the floor area of the room it is in or 50% of the whole house? 

I am having this ‘discussion ‘ about  flame spread with BCO at the moment. 

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The room.

[SiBee]

  On 29/06/2019 at 09:26, SteamyTea said:

Which one?  The warm sunny place, or the one in Cornwall?

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Cornwall. It’s a foggy white out at the minute?

[SteamyTea]

  On 29/06/2019 at 10:06, SiBee said:

Cornwall. It’s a foggy white out at the minute

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Then I shall go to Penzance.  Was so still there last night that the fireworks got obscured by their own smoke.

[Alfow]

  On 29/06/2019 at 09:29, Mr Punter said:

 

The room.

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Thank you for sharing that. Most helpful. That’ll get me out of jail in our open area but not the bedroom I think. Is that taken from Part F?

[Mr Punter]

  On 29/06/2019 at 17:01, Alfow said:

Thank you for sharing that. Most helpful. That’ll get me out of jail in our open area but not the bedroom I think. Is that taken from Part F?

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Part B fire safety

[Patrick]

  On 29/06/2019 at 08:34, Alfow said:

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What's the finish on the ceiling there? I can't quite tell from the photos but looks good as well.

[Alfow]

  On 29/06/2019 at 17:49, Patrick said:

What's the finish on the ceiling there? I can't quite tell from the photos but looks good as well.

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That’s the faces of the 7x3 timbers with painted plasterboard in between. 

[Alfow]

  On 29/06/2019 at 17:24, Mr Punter said:

 

Part B fire safety

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[joth]

This thread inspired a conversation about having a ply feature wall. (We are planning kitchen units with some exposed ply, so it would all tie together nicely).

 

Immediate reply from my wife was "won't that be a nightmare for hanging pictures / shelves etc?" -- we'd fear to drilling into it as it's much harder to polyfilla it over if making a mistake or future change of needs. How do others deal with this?

 

I guess could go full-industrial with some sort of wall racking system. Or totally pegboard it.

[SteamyTea]

  On 30/06/2019 at 13:59, joth said:

it's much harder to polyfilla it over

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Filler, wire brush with the grain, used teabag to stain it.

Will still look like a pegboard eventually.

[Onoff]

Response from Oz:

 

Unfortunately the ShadowFIX system can only be sold with our plywood.  We do not have a UK distributor, we can pack up and quote ex-Brisbane if you organise the shipping.

 

Regards
 

 

Lizan Yee

National Sales and Marketing Manager

 

AUSTRAL PLYWOODS

P 07 3426 8666 | D 07 3426 8628 | M 0439 277 223

E lizan.yee@australply.com.au | W australply.com.au

[Onoff]

Thinking out loud...

 

I reckon you could use a biscuit jointer to route peripheral slots in a thick board. Then commission some METAL biscuits with a counter sunk hole for fixing. The biscuits could be sized to give the desired gap between boards.

 

Mega dust trap behind...

 

I'd be worried about the board "drumming" with fixings just around the edge.

 

How about.....MDF panels as a wall covering? You could get them laser or water jet cut as interlocking, organically etc shaped panels and have them powder coated.

 

 

[Ferdinand]

  On 30/06/2019 at 13:59, joth said:

This thread inspired a conversation about having a ply feature wall. (We are planning kitchen units with some exposed ply, so it would all tie together nicely).

 

Immediate reply from my wife was "won't that be a nightmare for hanging pictures / shelves etc?" -- we'd fear to drilling into it as it's much harder to polyfilla it over if making a mistake or future change of needs. How do others deal with this?

 

I guess could go full-industrial with some sort of wall racking system. Or totally pegboard it.

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I would try a different type of fixing. You could perhaps rout a "picture rail" groove into it, or attach something industrial-looking to do the same job?

 

I posted a piccie recently of a scaffold plank feature wall being used by my Lettings Agent in a decor scheme from a professional HMO in Nottingham. I am still undecided, but it is an attractive option as the surface is not pure. Now seems to have vanished as presumably the room is rented, but like this:

 

 

For hanging things or posters etc, I have never done better than the cork tiles I used for a whole wall once. They included partially black cork, so it was a texture.

 

Ferdinand

 

 

 

Edited July 1, 2019 by Ferdinand

[Ferdinand]

  On 29/06/2019 at 08:34, Alfow said:

We used 12mm sanded then danish oiled. We’re pleased with the effect. 

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Interesting - that does not chime with me personally, despite one of my favourite themes being simple modern styles with exposed materials.

 

I think that for me it is neither one thing nor tother. That is too many materials all trying to be themselves such that none of them get the space to be their best, so it comes across to *me* as a bit too "smorgasboard", almost "tartan".

 

If I was to live with the busy grain from the ply, I would want the rest to be very quiet. So I might have gone eg for simple black doors.

 

Not a criticism; more a different perspective.

 

I have perhaps been conditioned by medieval church interiors in England stripped to stone and plaster having visited so many; if you put me somewhere like the Pugin Gothic Revival Roman Catholic church in Cheadle I find it impossibly busy:

 

 

 

Ferdinand

 

Edited July 1, 2019 by Ferdinand

[markharro]

  On 29/06/2019 at 09:29, Mr Punter said:

 

The room.

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Hi @Mr Punter - I dont suppose you know where Scottish regs are on this? thanks

 

[Onoff]

  On 01/07/2019 at 05:37, Ferdinand said:

I posted a piccie recently of a scaffold plank feature

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I reckon those boards are wider than normal scaffold boards.

[Ferdinand]

  On 01/01/2023 at 19:44, Onoff said:

 

I reckon those boards are wider than normal scaffold boards.

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Oooh. My old post has matured like an English Sparkling Wine from Nyetimber.

 

I make it 10 and a bit planks in that piccie, so at 225mm each for a 9" board I make it just on a 2.4m ceiling height.

 

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[Ferdinand]

  On 01/01/2023 at 19:34, markharro said:

Hi @Mr Punter - I dont suppose you know where Scottish regs are on this? thanks

 

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Check which version of regs you are working with.

 

I don't know what the Scottish ones say, but the English ones have changed last summer - so may have happened in Scotland too.