Russdl

I don't know the answer to that. There was nothing in my permission that removed PD, but there is a listed building fairly close and I don't know if that changes the rules at all? I'll have to investigate that - it sounds like that may help.

I suspect one that could turn a fire engine around would require a lottery win ? I'm not 'in it' so I can't 'win it' ?

As ever, thanks all for your replies. I'd already considered that, (and I'd be happy to reverse the fire truck if they were struggling). The problem I see with playing the game is that when I apply for planning permission for the garage that will effectively eat up most of the turning area so I presume I'll end up jumping through all the same hoops again regarding the reversing fire truck?

@ProDave I suspect you could be right, but I've no idea. I've just been looking at 'sprinkler' v 'misting' systems. I'd never heard of misting systems until about an hour ago. Every day's a school day.

@JSHarris Ah, I'm with you. I guess I could look into that. As you say If we'd had a fire in the original bungalow there would have been no turning circle and a 60m reverse, but now that bungalow has gone...

@JSHarris I don't think a dry riser will help our particular problem as the fire appliance can get to within 45m of all parts of the property, it's just when all is done and dusted it would be a 60m reverse for the fire appliance which is 40m too far backwards according to the regs.

Just resurrecting this topic with my own little problem that has only just come to light courtesy of BCO asking the Fire Service the following question: "The access to the new dwelling is in accordance with the guidance in Approved Document B1, except for the length of the driveway. Vehicle access for a pump appliance is achievable to within 45m of all points The access road provides a width in excess of 3.7m however a turning circle cannot be provided and service vehicles would need to reverse approx. 60m. As this is a replacement dwelling would you accept the increased reversing distance?" The response is 'NO'. The Fire Service "...has stated that a turning circle is required within the curtilage of the property or a compensatory feature such as a domestic sprinkler or misting system should be included..." What confuses me is how does a sprinkler system make it easier for a Fire Appliance to reverse more than 20m??? Or do they just not bother to turn up if you have a sprinkler system so reversing never becomes an issue??? As stated, it's a replacement dwelling at the end of a track and no room on the plot to have a turning circle - if we ever want to have a garage. And we (ME) definitely do! Is there anyway round this that doesn't involve £K's on a sprinkler system, or should I just be grateful that I'm being pushed reluctantly towards a sprinkler system?

@laurenco It's not built yet, but I would have liked to stick with the concealed gutters aesthetically (I think yours will look particularly sharp) however I was getting more and more concerned about the potential issues and the shear complexity of the detail that was emerging. Weak and feeble I know!

@laurenco We were going to have concealed gutters but I bottled it in the end, I got these two drawings of separate solutions from, I recall not where, but they may be of some use.

Never heard of that. Many thanks ?

We do. Another good point ?

Pretty sure we know exactly where the bed will go, so that will go in my Electrical Plan ? Of course! It's not rocket science is it!! (why can't I work this stuff out for myself??)

Thanks for all the replies so far. I think we'll do that as well. I'd read about the 5 amp sockets previously and liked that idea. I presume switching them individually at the wall and each side of the bed would overcome that little problem? I'll have to look into that (if I'm honest I don't really understand what you're saying!) Another good suggestion, but I suspect they couldn't be on a timer then - or can you get timers for 5 amp sockets? @Bitpipe There are some great suggestions there - all of them, and many that wouldn't have occurred to me until it was too late I suspect. (wardrobe lights, exterior Christmas lights etc etc) thanks very much for that great collection of ideas.

@Hecateh I think we’ll do the same, it seems eminently sensible. I’ve read a bit about 5 amp sockets for various side/standard lights and that seems like an excellent idea, are there any drawbacks? I don’t want to overdo it.

I like that one.

Although I've found lots of useful tidbits amongst the masses of information on these forums, I've searched high and low and can't find a central repository of 'electrical planning' hints, tips, brilliant ideas, pitfalls etc. Is there one on the forum somewhere? If not, can we start it right here? Standing by for an avalanche of brilliance from you BuildHubbers

Further off topic, what were the other three?

Bloody hell, what a clown! Sorry. Now where is my dunce's cap.

I for one will be really interested in the result of that experiment.

Does that include the cost of actually burying it, or just the price of the tank?

Had you already switched it off and on once before that?

@JSHarris, thanks, I guess for an easy life I may as well fit one.

@JSHarris do you think the AAV will be a requirement for my situation, 1 toilet and 1 sink discharging to the IC, along the lines that @Russell griffiths suggested earlier in this thread?

I should have guessed!

Brilliant @Russell griffiths That sounds like a simple little solution, and nice use of unintended punning!