Redoctober Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Thinking ahead for when the time comes to decorate, what is the considered view on painting newly plastered walls? I appreciate an undercoat / wash will be needed but how soon after, can that be applied and also, how soon after that, can proper colours go on? As ever I welcome your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 +1 on this. Can I paint the bathroom ceiling this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 You will know by the colour of the skim when it's dried out enough to paint. It will be a pale pink colour with no darker spots. In the summer it won't take much more than a week or so for most walls to dry out. Your best bet is to just paint it all white and let the house sit for 18 months 2 years and let it move and shrink and crack. Fill the cracks after the 2 years and then paint it whatever colours you want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Declan52 said: You will know by the colour of the skim when it's dried out enough to paint. It will be a pale pink colour with no darker spots. In the summer it won't take much more than a week or so for most walls to dry out. Your best bet is to just paint it all white and let the house sit for 18 months 2 years and let it move and shrink and crack. Fill the cracks after the 2 years and then paint it whatever colours you want. I was thinking a light key then mist coat first on my ceiling? Thinking as in the bathroom the top coat needs to be something special? Sorry @Redoctober hijacking your thread! Edited June 26, 2018 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 With @Declan52on this. It needs a few days to dry. I reduced this to about 36-48 hours on my last by using chunky dehumidifiers, but I had an electrician programmed and needed it done first. I spray the first coats for speed (would save a number of days on a house) for a number of whole rooms, and while still empty so as to avoid needing to do too much masking. Ferdinand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 53 minutes ago, Redoctober said: Thinking ahead for when the time comes to decorate, what is the considered view on painting newly plastered walls? I appreciate an undercoat / wash will be needed but how soon after, can that be applied and also, how soon after that, can proper colours go on? As ever I welcome your thoughts. This weather you can paint fresh plaster after a couple of days Unless it is on the crappy Habito boards give it a week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I have just finished decorating our new build and found screwfix bare Plaster emulsion and magnolia good paint, my decorator friend advised Dulux trade white for ceilings for better cover and non yellowing ( he was right ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoctober Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Onoff said: Sorry @Redoctober hijacking your thread! Not a problem @Onoff - the advice being given is all relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Is it worth buying paint specific for new plaster? Like this, gets good reviews: https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-trade-bare-plaster-paint-brilliant-white-10ltr/51004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Onoff said: I was thinking a light key then mist coat first on my ceiling? Thinking as in the bathroom the top coat needs to be something special? Sorry @Redoctober hijacking your thread! I just watered down my first coat. The new plaster sucks it in really quick. By the time you have finished a large ceiling or wall you could start the 2nd coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Depends on the paint I use Super Leytex which can go over fresh plaster - so stuff that is 4-5 days old. Very good coverage and not a bad price. You don’t need a mist coat with it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Onoff said: Is it worth buying paint specific for new plaster? Like this, gets good reviews: https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-trade-bare-plaster-paint-brilliant-white-10ltr/51004 That’s not bad stuff but does need a proper coat over the top. The Super Leytex is good for final finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnaught Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, nod said: crappy Habito boards Oh, are they crappy. I was thinking of copying @lizzie and using those on my build. Why crappy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 We painted the living room 4 days after the plaster was finished, it dries tha quick at this time of year. I am still a fan of Wickes cheapest trade mat white emulsion for the first couple of coats. We did this time try a slightly watered down first coat, but that did not cover as well and needed a third coat so won't be doing that again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 You want a "contract matt" type as the mist coat mixed with water rather than anything with vinyl in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Leyland Super Leytex is great for bare plaster, but pretty pricy usually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, bassanclan said: Leyland Super Leytex is great for bare plaster, but pretty pricy usually Think its about £22 for 15 litres but covers well at 2 coats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 @Dreadnaughtand @nod why crappy? other than it taking more skill/time to install there is no drawback I have found. They are far superior to the regular boards both for strength and acoustic properties. I have no problem fixing to my walls and none of those rubbish stud wall fixings needed. The 30kg hung from one wood screw claim is turning out to be true. I have heavy pictures and mirrors and so far none have been a problem fixing into the habito, ditto with coat racks and wall cupboards I highly recommend it....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 For my mist coat (s) on the bathroom ceiling and half a wall I'm going to just use whatever crap emulsion that's lying around here I've decided. If it needs more than one mist then so be it. I'll then buy if necessary a decent quality white for "kitchens & bathrooms" for the ceiling. SWMBO can choose the colour for the half wall later at her leisure once the tiles are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I used Dulux matt for all coats. This is 2 coats straight onto skim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnaught Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Wow, that looks great, @lizzie! @lizzie, in the second photo, what are those linear recessed lights? I am after something just like that. And is that a sun pipe? Edited June 26, 2018 by Dreadnaught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Dreadnaught said: Wow, that looks great, @lizzie! @lizzie, in the second photo, what are those linear recessed lights? I am after something just like that. Thank you. They are plastered in led profiles, you need to do at boarding stage, the metal profiles are fixed in the plasterboard and then skimmed around as part of wall ..... electric cabling done at first fix too, then led tape and diffusers fitted at second fix. I love them they are so effective. Our building inspector loved them too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnaught Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, lizzie said: plastered in led profiles Superb. Exactly what I am planning. Did you put them anywhere else? Did you try them in any ceilings (I am tempted)? I wonder did you use a lighting designer is this your own inspiration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 31 minutes ago, Dreadnaught said: Superb. Exactly what I am planning. Did you put them anywhere else? Did you try them in any ceilings (I am tempted)? I wonder did you use a lighting designer is this your own inspiration? I did work with a lighting designer, she took my initial scheme and basicallly chucked it out and started again and I am glad she did. It was money well spent on the design fee and I learnt a lot. I was having those profiles in the hall ceiling, they were going to come up the outside wall next to the front door continue along the hall ceiling and out and down the back wall. It was a fantastic idea but would have cost a fortune so we dropped it. The ones in the walls have a tiny pir controlled foot washer in the skirting immediately below the longest ones. Its very effective. Now the house is built I have no regrets about dropping the ceiling profile in the hall the ones in the walls are enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Dreadnaught said: Superb. Exactly what I am planning. Did you put them anywhere else? Did you try them in any ceilings (I am tempted)? I wonder did you use a lighting designer is this your own inspiration? I find it best to wait until someone else has worked with a lighting designer...then COPY them! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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