TonyT Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Use threaded screws to metal dowels. screw wood screw part into timber leaving machine thread exposed for bracket with a nut. Edited May 18, 2021 by TonyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, TonyT said: Use threaded screws to metal dowels. screw wood screw part into timber leaving thread exposed fox bracket with a nut. Fair shout. You'll have to give him a picture though! @zoothorn, how about this, no screws for the most part, or the brackets even. Just make a pattern from card then transfer to some 2" timber. The ones against the wall should just slide wedge in there - no screws. You will need screws at the front overhang where there are no walls: Edited May 18, 2021 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Onoff said: At the front won't that block be fixing to thin air? No, the block is simply a spacer to get the bracket away from the wall!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 54 minutes ago, joe90 said: No, the block is simply a spacer to get the bracket away from the wall!! Where the end brackets going there are no walls ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Onoff said: Where the end brackets going there are no walls Ah, didn’t realise that?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Sorry chaps Ive been deluged with work, plus simultaneous gardening threads & 3 on a music electronics site too: I cant & cope with any of them! Great ideas/ suggestions muchos gratias. The pack it out with a block idea @Onoff is too big a span to achieve really.. the overhang is 10" you see. I like your reverse-cowgirl-inverse hook idea.. but as Joe said how would I access it. I thought of packing out the edge with a wedge, to make it vertical.. but then my gutter sits to far away-! -- I think maybe joe saying dont bother with gutters is becoming more appealing! but defo need it top LHS side, t'other side its a luxury tarty addition really, as it can drip off onto stream bank 10' below (but I'd thought of making a small platform here, to access underneath the cabin, a useful storage space: so a gutter would be of use). Hmm. JSH would know what to do. I am summononing him. thx tooting-zooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 right with 10” overhang you can get up behind with a screwdriver so what about a short bit of bent metal strap screwed into back of rafter and bolted to gutter bracket...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 52 minutes ago, zoothorn said: I like your reverse-cowgirl-inverse hook idea.. but as Joe said how would I access it. As @TonyT suggested: https://www.screwfix.com/p/easydrive-machine-thread-to-wood-thread-dowel-screws-m8-x-x-75mm-10-pack/7618H? You could use screws and keyhole slot the bracket for instance...coach screws too, an option. Can't be ar$ed sketching it and it'd be too much for you to contemplate...so won't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 23 hours ago, joe90 said: Ah, didn’t realise that?♂️ I think Ive worked it out-? I'll fall off me perch if so.. @Onoff 's idea adding timber.. but simpler. 4x3 timber ~10" long bits screwed under t&g roof board (so perp to gutter) shape the end to wiggle round the baton under roof lip, & cut its end at an angle- to make it vertical. Hopefully not get heavy enough to stress the t&g roof section its attatched to, if I put 3 brackets/ 3 timbers in each side. thanks chaps. zH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 @joe90 aha.. that bent metal idea seems simplest. Forget my timber chunk then.. didn't see this idea Joe, terrific cheers. @Onoff apologies I can't quite figure out the screw/ machine screw end things idea.. I can't picture it, as I've never seen these before i think. Dont worry I think joe's idea might work..? if I can find a bit of metal. any old rusty bit's ok surely if no water gets under here once gutter on. grateful- zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfb Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 sorry if this has been asked before but why do you want gutters? Its not like the rain is going to run down onto the front deck - its all going off to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, zoothorn said: any old rusty bit's ok Just give it a coat of hamerite paint, no undercoat etc needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, zoothorn said: I think Ive worked it out-? I'll fall off me perch if so.. @Onoff 's idea adding timber.. but simpler. 4x3 timber ~10" long bits screwed under t&g roof board (so perp to gutter) shape the end to wiggle round the baton under roof lip, & cut its end at an angle- to make it vertical. Hopefully not get heavy enough to stress the t&g roof section its attatched to, if I put 3 brackets/ 3 timbers in each side. thanks chaps. zH It'll be fine. A good heavy snowfall one year will test your brackets! ? I'd not fix to the t&g roofing but the long edge bits as aforementioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Or a bit of this will do, cut to length and a bend and it’s galvanised ?. https://www.toolstation.com/heavy-duty-strap-flat/p50096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 19/05/2021 at 21:20, jfb said: sorry if this has been asked before but why do you want gutters? Its not like the rain is going to run down onto the front deck - its all going off to the side. well I was sort of assuming I needed them.. maybe I dont then!? I think RHS can drop off to stream bank/ ruled out this side then, so if just doing topside (LHS) I make it ~£55 to get the bits for this. If its £75 to get a 'pack' for both sides.. kinda makes sense to do both! so erm.. As usual I admit i dont know me oorse from me elbow jfb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 19/05/2021 at 23:09, joe90 said: Or a bit of this will do, cut to length and a bend and it’s galvanised ?. https://www.toolstation.com/heavy-duty-strap-flat/p50096 Great find- thanks joe/ & there's a 2.5 x 200mm one on same page too for 49p! 3 per side/ sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 @Onoff further to your enquiries re. useage: last 2 night I've kipped in it.. great success, though the stream's quite prominent so takes a while to drift off. But got some lino (had lined up for porch job/ now ideal for cabin) down/ a futon.. & I'm 1/2 back in my vw camper parked up wild next to some river somewhere late 90's. Happy as a pig in the proverbial. It does offer me possibility now of doing b&b next year too. zH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, zoothorn said: @Onoff further to your enquiries re. useage: last 2 night I've kipped in it.. great success, though the stream's quite prominent so takes a while to drift off. But got some lino (had lined up for porch job/ now ideal for cabin) down/ a futon.. & I'm 1/2 back in my vw camper parked up wild next to some river somewhere late 90's. Happy as a pig in the proverbial. It does offer me possibility now of doing b&b next year too. zH I envy you. What you need is a wife to f*** up your idyll. I've one going spare, can post. Be warned though, miserable ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: I envy you. What you need is a wife to f*** up your idyll. I've one going spare, can post. Be warned though, miserable ?. Hahaha!. Tbh 1st time in my life I'm happier, I think, without.. some 'freedom perfect idyll' you just seek after having a vw camper ~I reckon. But you have your cabin, even more rustic than mine! tell her you've had enough & off to kip in it for a few days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Chaps, what do you think of the idea of a diddy log stove in my cambrian chalet? feasable... or idiotic/ from a madman's dream-? I mean a tiddler, 1.5 / 2kw for eg. if they come that small. A reminder, it's a 3 x 3m inside. My stone living room so cold during day you see, altho ok on my log burner nights (weekend)... that I need a hunker down warm day room, thinking this might be cheapest idea. Plus a groovy addition as it were. Thanks, zoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 A chap at our sailing club has a tiny stove in his wooden yacht, almost certainly smaller than your shed. It burns charcoal. You put a tea light in the bottom, load it up with charcoal, and light the tea light and it smoulders gently for some time keeping the boat warm without setting it alight. I put a small WBS in our static caravan, a very cheap one made in China from an on line supplier I had some offcuts of stone worktops that made a hearth and protection from the heat for the caravan. Nothing burned that should not have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Hi @ProDave great, that's got to be another project then.. I'll research charcoal burners, & tiniest stoves: yours looks ideal for a bigger static caravan, good hearth example too. I've already seen 'pipsqueak' stoves, china jobs i guess, so tiny you can barely fit a cooks matchbox size log in.. but still whack out 3 kw: surely I dont need that figure if my house stove is 8kw for a biggish living room. Interesting. Thanks, zh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I've got this to make a stove: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 @Onoff bloody hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 I've been looking at this one, devon made.. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185139190569?hash=item2b1b27db29:g:qgIAAOSwESRgsz25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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