ToughButterCup Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Sometimes you just have to suck it up. And now is as good a time as any to accept that we aren't going to get a roofer to come and help before Christmas. I have asked til I'm blue in the face: no dice. Debbie's being brave about it, conclusion: I'd better Just Bloody Do It. So, I'll be paying for my own mistakes rather than pay for those of others. Differently put: the Full-On-DIY -experience. I thought I'd teach myself how and in the process, document it. And then read your critiques. And wince I expect. This post builds on the earlier thread about the Piggery, and the roof beam saga : that proved remarkably painless, and quite safe, for two people because we'd thought it through. It only weighed 160 kg : just over 7 meters long. £500 crane fees saved. The very nice man from Haldane Fisher's HIAB played a key role: it's reach was about 2 meters short of what was needed. Some ya win. Where are we now? Here : a set of rafters which are currently subject to close inspection by our swallows, What's the roof build up? Rafters Counter battens Felt Battens Slate There's provision for a few kWh of PV, and a Velux in there somewhere too. I list the better resources I have found below. Most of them contain commercial material, none of which I or BH endorse(s). As usual when faced by this type of problem, I resort to YooChube, hence: How to slate a roof: layout ready for slating, Slating a roof, reference points The accompanying website There are many other sites: This one is Irish, very well edited, deals with the basics - some interesting comments too Setting out: perhaps a bit direct, but detailed images Setting out the lats: brief but to the point Wincing, I add this video because with the sound off and ignoring H+S its illustrates a 'normal' truss roof DIY Doctor often focuses on repair, but this is about tiling and battening as well as felting Construction Channel carries a series of time-lapse based videos about roofing at least four of them are here There's nowt like reading the comments under many of the videos: my God they can be bitchy: I thought it was only lecturers who were bitchy about colleagues' practice. I'll add to the list above time goes by. If you find a good support / teaching / learning resource about roofing and slating, please share it below. Ian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 My builder roofed ours in slate but used slate clips rather than nails and it looks great and looked quicker than nails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 The Nu-Lok system halves the number of slates and looks really good. Easy to learn and understand too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I used the Nu-Lok system and for easy areas, straight with no dormers, it was quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Nu-Lok: new to me..... I'll dig around. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 @PeterStarck, did you use their pv as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 @Simplysimon No I didn't but friends did on their new build, but it wasn't cheap. They also used the solar thermal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 http://www.nulokroofing.com/uk/nulok-roofing-system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamingTheBuild Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 How hard can it be???!!! At least you are fixing the roof while the sun is shining - allegedly! May the gauge be with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 Nu-Lok have already rung me this morning. They get up early in Eire. I should be in a position to compare prices by early next week, I hope. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juj Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 This Nu-Lok sounds ideal for my project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 02/05/2018 at 14:19, PeterW said: The Nu-Lok system halves the number of slates and looks really good. Easy to learn and understand too Ooo this is timely. As someone cursed by a conservation condition previously satisfied with an example of best Welsh slate this would save me mega bucks. Would an eagle eyed conservation officer spot the different lay pattern of this slate efficient system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, epsilonGreedy said: Ooo this is timely. As someone cursed by a conservation condition previously satisfied with an example of best Welsh slate this would save me mega bucks. Would an eagle eyed conservation officer spot the different lay pattern of this slate efficient system? They say the material has to be welsh slate, not how it has to be laid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 13 hours ago, recoveringacademic said: Nu-Lok have already rung me this morning. They get up early in Eire. I should be in a position to compare prices by early next week, I hope. Can I volunteer as your assistant tiler for a few days if you proceed with nulok? I assume the slate cost saving is greater than the headline 30 percent because smaller tiles can be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I was also wondering about the cost of Nu-lok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, PeterW said: They say the material has to be welsh slate, not how it has to be laid..... I might be ascribing too much power to the local demi god conservation officer who according to local lore dispenses more tyranny than a marcher baron with a hangover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, epsilonGreedy said: I might be ascribing too much power to the local demi god conservation officer who according to local lore dispenses more tyranny than a marcher baron with a hangover. I love conservation officers ... just can’t manage a whole one at once without a nice bottle of Malbec... Anyway, they can only enforce what is on the plans and what is agreed. If it says on the plans that slates laid double lapped etc etc then you’re out of luck, same as if it says lead for valleys etc but if the plans say slate, the agreed in writing material is slate, then they can’t really comment on the rest ... whats the exact wording of the condition or the permission...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 hours ago, epsilonGreedy said: Ooo this is timely. As someone cursed by a conservation condition previously satisfied with an example of best Welsh slate this would save me mega bucks. Would an eagle eyed conservation officer spot the different lay pattern of this slate efficient system? Remember he can’t force you to use welsh slate he can only specify colour anD texture etc, not the source. You are free to get slate from anywhere within the EU. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epsilonGreedy Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 @recoveringacademic Have you had a chance to consider Nulok any further? @PeterWHave you had a close up and personal experience with the Nulok system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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