Onoff Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Where to start! NEVER done wall tiling in my life so here goes. Setting a datum: I've taken the datum to be the centre of the big pocket alongside the bath as this will be the focal point: I've set the laser up on a clamped piece of wood. Tbh a pita to keep doing it. Should I set up some sort of permanent platform? The width of the laser line is nom 1.5mm. Is that "good enough"? Think I've made a mistake using a Sharpie to mark the datum? Can't help thinking a sharp pencil would be better? Just about to try and start figuring the pockets in the stud wall so they align exactly with the tiles and everything needs to be bob on. Should I at some stage be pinning a batten to the wall to tile up off of? This batten, what size should it be made of? Should I start tiling with the batten under the first full tile from the floor? Cheers Edited February 13, 2019 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, Onoff said: Where to start! NEVER done wall filing in my life so here goes. Setting a datum: I've taken the datum to be the centre of the big pocket alongside the bath as this will be the focal point: I've set the laser up on a clamped piece of wood. Tbh a pita to keep doing it. Should I set up some sort of permanent platform? The width of the laser line is nom 1.5mm. Is that "good enough"? Think I've made a mistake using a Sharpie to mark the datum? Can't help thinking a sharp pencil would be better? Just about to try and start figuring the pockets in the stud wall so they align exactly with the tiles and everything needs to be bob on. Should I at some stage be pinning a batten to the wall to tile up off of? This batten, what size should it be made of? Should I start tiling with the batten under the first full tile from the floor? Cheers Ideally you would have a bracket with your laser But matching it to the SAME datum each time will work fine Use a sharp pencil to mak your datum have your laser line nipping the bottom of any tile line or batten You will find it much easier to work from a batton It May help you to put a pencil line along the top of your baton the width of your tile plus adhesive So you can keep everything straight Setting out from a focal point is a good idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Cheers. I wonder if it's worth me masking taping over the 1.5mm Sharpie line and redoing in pencil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 the datum could be a foot thick as long as you always refer to the same part of it, match the top of the laser to the top of the sharpie mark every time and it will be as accurate as the thinnest of pencil lines also, that crowbar is just waiting to hit you on the head...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, Onoff said: Cheers. I wonder if it's worth me masking taping over the 1.5mm Sharpie line and redoing in pencil? No if you just let the line just catch the edge you will be accurate Some of the MF ceilings I set out can be 20 meters plus I use exactly the same princeible The line on my green Hilti is about 5 mil once the distance is greater than 10 metres 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 45 minutes ago, nod said: Ideally you would have a bracket with your laser But matching it to the SAME datum each time will work fine Use a sharp pencil to mak your datum have your laser line nipping the bottom of any tile line or batten You will find it much easier to work from a batton It May help you to put a pencil line along the top of your baton the width of your tile plus adhesive So you can keep everything straight Setting out from a focal point is a good idea @nod, you are booked for my place later this year OK? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, recoveringacademic said: @nod, you are booked for my place later this year OK? If I ever get ours finished I’d hoped January and Feb were going to be quiet months Hopefully I can get a uninterrupted week in a few weeks Sort of torn between earning the money and getting on with thing Thankfully we have this site to have a good moan with like minded friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 If I set the top of my horizontal pocket timber at 378mm above datum will that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 17/02/2018 at 00:21, Onoff said: If I set the top of my horizontal pocket timber at 378mm above datum will that work? Bump. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 should 378 not be the top of the plasterboard? so 366 for the timber? possibly even top of adhesive so 362...ish??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Doesn’t allow for adhesive ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Construction Channel said: should 378 not be the top of the plasterboard? so 366 for the timber? Yep. I think you're right. Cheers for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, PeterW said: Doesn’t allow for adhesive ... I've got a 10mm tile trim and the tiles are 8mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Onoff said: I've got a 10mm tile trim and the tiles are 8mm. Ok just wanted to check !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, PeterW said: Ok just wanted to check !! By all means, Ed picked up the first faux pas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 I can't believe nobody spotted the deliberate mistake when I posted up this photo of the model previous! Anyway...Union Jack cuts in 330x330x8mm ceramic floor tiles. On a loser? Possible? I can probably get some water jet cutting done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 @Nickfromwales, when you have your tiles water jet cut do you do a CAD drawing or a fag packet sketch and someone else draws it up as a DXF etc? Is it that the tile has to be positioned on the cutting bed to a set datum point as in can they cut to say a line drawn on the tile? Going back to my days doing drawings for the "magic eye" cutter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I give the tiles with tile pencil lines drawn on them where necessary and a handful of beer tokens and he works the magic. I don't ask how, just how much. I'm a bathroom fitter, he's a CNC machinist in charge of nearly a £1m worth of huge water jet. He even oscillated the jet to give me a replaceted 3mm grout line when two triangles came back together to make a full tile. The dogs bollocks. Beer applied = Tiles cut. Tres bien. PS nowt wrong with back of a fag packet......haven't lost a patient yet. I don't own a scientific calculator btw . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: He even oscillated the jet to give me a replaceted 3mm grout line when two triangles came back together to make a full tile. Like they do when engraving i.e. not going all the way through! Shouldn't such a line be properly broken to give falls in two planes? Bit worried about my proposed layout that the clouded intersection is going to give rise to a rather sharp, pointy tile that's also weak: (The b&w grid in the background is just something from the youngest's transposition cypher homework NOT mosaics! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Not a groove jetted in These were 600x600mm porcelain. The lady of the house had a 'vision' of black and white, so black and white it went. Porcelanosa sold the dream, then handed me a nightmare. The black and white chequers are 1200x1200mm and each is made up of a full tile of each colour plus 4 halves. If you jet the tiles in half then bring two together then you get a 599x599 quare as the jet takes roughly 1mm of material out during the 'cut'. Problem is you then have no grout gap between the black and white triangles where the black meets white. Solution is to ask the water jet guru to oscillate the jet side to side as it's cutting. Then you can choose 1.5-2mm off each cut which then gives you 3-4mm for grout. This was an open plan bedroom. A curved wall in the corner where you walked into the shower and poop area, and this vanity on one wall of the bedroom, just off. Oh oh and just to piss me right off, there was a mix of black and white grout. Try that for fast access to the loony bin . Edited March 16, 2018 by Nickfromwales Some random picture which isn't mine popped in there ! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Nice job, but was it a footballer's wife? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Not knocking the technical prowess and thought gone into it but that looks f****** 'orrible! Had the woman no taste? Did she have you do the ducks on the wall as well? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 "The customer is always right". I don't go to design people's houses for them, I got do what I'm asked, and to do it well. As you say, technically, it was a nightmare, but as far as execution went, 'twas splederific. . And yes, f'kin orrible . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Oh oh and just to piss me right off, there was a mix of black and white grout. Try that for fast access to the loony bin . Jeezo! I know we all have different tastes but FML that vanity unit is a monstrosity. And the lights!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) That is the proof that Trump is also an adjective. Edited March 17, 2018 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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