Spinny Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Have spent today applying Farrow & Ball Modern Emulsion in 'All White' to a large ceiling. First coat only following mist coating. All seemed fine while applying it with a roller. Now some hours later with some sunlight reflected back into the room (albeit through a polythene cover), the ceiling looks pretty awful. See pics. We were going to put F&B Dead Flat on the ceiling and Modern Emulsion on the walls as the open plan room contains a kitchen. However F&B shop said some customers had done this and had it peel off because Dead Flat is not a suitable paint for rooms where moist air may be present aka Kitchens & Bathrooms. Therefore we were told to use Modern Emulsion. Now it looks like it has a pronounced sheen, and seems to make the ceiling look very poor and uneven. Any advice please ? I thought F&B was supposed to be a premium paint ? Am I going to have to switch to something else which is actually Matt and if so what ? Will a second coat solve the problem ? (PS Mist Coat was applied by rolling away from the window, First coat of F&B by rolling across the window/room on the understanding we would then apply the final coat of F&B by rolling away from the window again.) Edited 2 hours ago by Spinny
Russell griffiths Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Wrong paint I’m afraid. johnstones perfect matt or tikurila. I’ve never used the Tikurila, but the johnstones is good stuff. I’ve got some serious ceilings with big windows and loads of natural light. The Johnstones hides a lot of stuff. 1
garrymartin Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Following up on Russell's post, I've used Tikkurila Anti-Reflex throughout my home on the ceilings and would never use anything else. Excellent paint. Hides many issues. Not sure Farrow & Ball have premium paint, but they definitely have premium marketing... 😉
Spinny Posted 41 minutes ago Author Posted 41 minutes ago 25 minutes ago, garrymartin said: Not sure Farrow & Ball have premium paint, but they definitely have premium marketing... 😉 Well certainly. But normally a company claiming to be premium but producing a problematic product will rapidly go to the wall. Honestly I have had so much work researching all manner of stuff to put things right. So I left SWMBO to choose some paint and assumed F&B knew what they were doing. It is just paint and I have painted rooms albeit years ago without problem - usually dulux matt and stuff.
Spinny Posted 32 minutes ago Author Posted 32 minutes ago (edited) Am I going to have to sand down the F&B modern emulsion lightly before repainting with something more matt ? (It is 38 sqm !) Is the Johnstone's and the Tukkurila going to be suitable for a room with a kitchen in it ? (i.e. given some moist air from opening oven doors, hob cooking etc will inevitably make it to ceiling level) Can you get these paints mixed to any colour to match the F&B 'All White' ? Don't know what to do with the walls now. Edited 30 minutes ago by Spinny
crispy_wafer Posted 13 minutes ago Posted 13 minutes ago We've had some success with Dulux super matt on ceilings, and diamond matt for the walls.
Russell griffiths Posted 7 minutes ago Posted 7 minutes ago The problem you have is you are trying to to do two different things you want a shiny paint with no pores open to stop moisture getting to it because it’s a kitchen, but then you want a flat mat paint to hide the plasterers sins. ive just painted a shower room in zinzer permanent white and it looks really good, however it has no windows in there so I cannot vouch for its hiding properties. but definitely something I will use in wet areas again. in a kitchen i would go with one of the flat ones we mentioned as it shouldn’t get damp, if you have kitchen extraction then it’s not going to affect it. rubbing it all down oooh that’s the question I wouldn’t because you then make it dusty and will then need to hoover it and wash it. but I might be inclined to go over the f and b with a primer, maybe the Tikurila optiva primer then the Tikurila anti reflex. you could phone Tikurila technical help line.
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