Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Can anybody tell me how I am supposed to know about regulations regarding demolition of a timber cabin, I’m going to try and sell it but I think with the work involved in moving it this could be unsuccessful, so if I take it to bits how am I supposed to know the correct procedures. Can I just act dumb if the council suddenly turn up. I intend getting in a big skip for the insulation and roof felt. If i do get the correct paperwork do I have to have an asbestos survey, I’m just trying to do this as cheaply as possible and really don’t want to go having to pay another bod to turn up and tell me there’s nothing present when I already know that. Cheers dodgy russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Take care and not just the health and safety! You need a demolition order from the council and unless you are careful this will trigger the start of your build so you need to tell them it is just prep work and not the actual start unless you want it to be. If you do start and you then want to use an independant BC company the council may insist you use them as the work has started. You probably do need an aspestos survey for piece of mind as you cannot knock down a building containing it and it is an offence to dump the stuff and there is one blend of the stuff that even the removal company won't touch without breathing apperatus and walk through shower units. Our survey was £560 showed up loads of the stuff and removal cost a £5kand that was without the really serious stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Blooming hell £500for the survey, I’m definitely going to try and sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 YOu now need to dig a hole in the middle of the green bit, and put up a sign worded Money Pit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Is the cabin a registered dwelling or simply a temporary/garden structure? I don't know enough about the regs but it would look like a candidate for "DIY" dismantling to me and nothing to do with your build. One thing is for sure; ask the question the wrong way and the answer will always involve a "yes" and a "fee". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just had some thoughts regarding asbestos. If the cabin was constructed in about 1990 then surely there would be no asbestos present as it had been outlawed by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 The cabin is a permanent dwelling, this is how we managed to get planning consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Sounds about right. Watch the demolition starting the CiL process - get that exemption form in tomorrow and don’t even remove a single screw until you get confirmation back ..!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Looking into the cil tomorrow to get confirmation, it looks like Cotswold district council have not adopted it, but will be checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Just had some thoughts regarding asbestos. If the cabin was constructed in about 1990 then surely there would be no asbestos present as it had been outlawed by then. 2000 is the year to use. Asbestos was finally banned in the UK in 1999 but some may have been left in stockists so it’s safer to use the year 2000 as the safe date for new building construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said: Blooming hell £500for the survey, I’m definitely going to try and sell it. Big bonfire maybe.......accidentally of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Unfortunately the cabin required planning consent to put it here so the council have the date that was granted so will have to stick with 1990. Looking for a manufacturer sticker so I can ask some questions. We do like a bonfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, lizzie said: Big bonfire maybe.......accidentally of course Except of course that Asbestos won’t burn no matter how hard you try. It’s one of the many reasons it was so popular and used in such vast quantities in buildings. There are plenty of countries that are still using it in fact. Edited January 28, 2018 by Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Does it HAVE to go? It looks too good. I would be trying to retain that and build on a different part. It would make a smashing workshop / shed / man cave, plus temporary accommodation while you build. I had the offer of something similar, but I had nowhere to put it and the condition for having it free was I would have had to remove it. How was it built? is there a chance it was a sectional prefab? in which case it might be possible to remove in sections with a crane and low loader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, ProDave said: Does it HAVE to go? It looks too good. I would be trying to retain that and build on a different part. It would make a smashing workshop / shed / man cave, plus temporary accommodation while you build. I had the offer of something similar, but I had nowhere to put it and the condition for having it free was I would have had to remove it. How was it built? is there a chance it was a sectional prefab? in which case it might be possible to remove in sections with a crane and low loader. That would fit around the side of my house just BEAUTIFULLY........?????????????? Please put that and me out of our misery asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Spill some paraffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Come and get it @Nickfromwales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, lizzie said: Big bonfire maybe.......accidentally of course Burning Aspestos is the VERY worSt thing you can do to it short of gringing it into a powder then dispersing it in the air and trying to breath in as much dust as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 It comes in two pieces, join down the middle, was delivered on two artics, will need a crane and two artics to take it away. My planning consent is for the spot the cabin sits on, I can only move it to a different spot if I take it completely apart as the track around the lake is not wide enough, I’ve got enough to do building a new house, I really don’t need another project, I thought about stripping off all the ship lap but would end up storing it for a couple of years while I build the house. Is it really worth it. Get it gone so I can crack on. Will be going on e bay for 99p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSharp01 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ian said: Except of course that Asbestos won’t burn no matter how hard you try. It’s one of the many reasons it was so popular and used in such vast quantities in buildings. It doesnt burn but it can explode shattering dust all over the place and any loose dust is transported in the smoke. Essentially if you own a building with aspestos or the suspicion of it you are under the control of Aspestos regulations 2012 and it is am offence not to take the correct steps Edited January 28, 2018 by MikeSharp01 Addition of URL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: It comes in two pieces, join down the middle, was delivered on two artics, will need a crane and two artics to take it away. As I suspected, it was built to the portable building / caravan spec so would have been exempt from building regs. In that case it should be possible to separate the 2 halves and move it again. You might even be able to sell it, so I am sure you could give it away. Take lots of photo's and put it here in the market place and on somewhere like Gumtree It is in effect a "twin unit" mobile home, but quite possibly built better than most static caravans. It would make someone a good temporary home while building if nothing else. How far are you from @Nickfromwales ? Crane hire and 2 low loaders. Worth getting a quote? Would a large hiab lift each half? have you looked underneath? are you sure it's not on 2 mobile home chassis with wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 No wheels it has a couple of4x12 timbers that run the full length these sit on pad stones of concrete blocks so it is off the floor by 450mm. All this talk about asbestos has got a bit carried away, I’m 99% certain there would not be any, I wanted to find out how I could demolish it without having to have an asbestos survey as I don’t want the expense, I think I answered my own question after remembering it was built in 1990, so going to do some research on the manufacturer. It would make somebody a perfect home while they build, it has a small kitchen, bathroom, 3 beds and full central heating. I am just looking at the most pain free way to get it gone that costs me the least amount of dosh. Up until a year ago it was occupied and has been for the last 20years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Im assuming the internal work was done after it was bolted together, so probably a fair bit of destruction ( plumbing / electrics / finishes etc ) before it could be separated? 2 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: Come and get it @Nickfromwales Id be there tomorrow morning if the budget and my arm allowed. Marketplace here has to be worth a shot? Give it a good bit of coverage, be our guest !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 How deep is your lake? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, Barney12 said: How deep is your lake? Wouldn’t it float. I could put a motor on the back. Now we’re getting silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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