Looks like the party is over....

[JamesPa]

39 minutes ago, Beelbeebub said:

A bit off topic but I don't think people have range anxiety. 

 

They have refueling anxiety.

That's very perceptive! Also spot on and a better description.

[Michael_S]

2 hours ago, MrPotts said:

I think a scop of 4+ is needed to breakeven the cost of gas v's electricity.

Depends a bit how efficient you think a gas boiler is in terms of KWH of gas per kwh of heat.

[Michael_S]

2 hours ago, MrPotts said:

I think a scop of 4+ is needed to breakeven the cost of gas v's electricity.

Depends a bit how efficient you think a gas boiler is in terms of KWH of gas per kwh of heat.

[SteamyTea]

3 hours ago, sharpener said:

And as you say a petrol fill-up only takes 5 mins.

I filled up today, well put 30 litres in.

The car in front of me was already filling up, was ten minutes before they came back to the car (with coffees), then 4 minutes before they pulled away.

I filled up in 3 minutes (pay at pump).

So a total of 17 minutes.

Now a 150 kW charger could probably pump in 40 kWh in that time, so about 160 miles.

 

3 hours ago, MikeSharp01 said:

the elephant in the room problem is that we don't have enough electricity to move

I looked at this a few years back, worked out that we could charge 3.5 million cars without any changes (apart from charging points), and 7.5 million cars with minor changes, but all without adding capacity or infrastructure.

I posted it up here somewhere.

[MikeSharp01]

7 minutes ago, SteamyTea said:

3.5 million cars without any changes (apart from charging points), and 7.5 million cars with minor changes

Yes but there are 35 million cars registered in the UK!

[SteamyTea]

10 minutes ago, MikeSharp01 said:

Yes but there are 35 million cars registered in the UK!

We are not going to wake up tomorrow with nothing but EVs in all our drives.

2021 there were about 190k, 2022 270k, 2023 315k, 2024 382k and 2025 (TD) 386k.

So still going to take a while.

[SteamyTea]

6 minutes ago, SteamyTea said:

We are not going to wake up tomorrow with nothing but EVs in all our drives.

2021 there were about 190k, 2022 270k, 2023 315k, 2024 382k and 2025 (TD) 386k.

So still going to take a while.

(the numbers are new registrations, there are about 1.7m BEVs)

 

Edited 2 hours ago by SteamyTea