Russell griffiths Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Looking for recommendations on a quality water softener. things it must have. Hi- flow ability to time the re -gen cycles I don’t want it kicking in randomly when I’m in the shower and stealing my water. quality more important than cheap n cheerful. what we saying people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 4 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: I don’t want it kicking in randomly It's just an inline filter isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 My Mother had a Harvey softener (well 2 over 33 years). Was pretty good considering the chalky water in Bucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, saveasteading said: It's just an inline filter isn't it? No they do a sort of re jig, blast themselves out, it can be noisy and can also deplete water pressure im told. im not worried about noise, so I want to be able to alter the time it does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said: im not worried about noise, so I want to be able to alter the time it does it. The twin cylinder softeners like Harvey, etc regenerate when required by switching over to the other cylinder. I had different models in the different houses I lived in, in the SE. They were all ok. Fortunately moving to Cornwall means I don't need one any longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 It seems a waste to fliter water used for flushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Plumb toilets, kitchen and utility sink, and outside taps off unfiltered. Showers and taps off filtered. Filtered tap in garage (washing the car) Filter all hot Works like a Charm, we have a high flow Monach jobbie, works well no impact on water pressure or flow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 51 minutes ago, saveasteading said: It seems a waste to fliter water used for flushing. Our water is so hard you get a scuddy line in the toilet bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benpointer Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 48 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Our water is so hard you get a scuddy line in the toilet bowl. Are you sure that's the water? 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, saveasteading said: It seems a waste to fliter water used for flushing. The softener “flushes” when it regenerates, of what I know of these devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, Andehh said: Plumb toilets, kitchen and utility sink, and outside taps off unfiltered. Showers and taps off filtered. Filtered tap in garage (washing the car) Why have half a tap saved from hard water crud and early demise, and not all outlets? Filtered water taps from hard water via de-chlorinating / carbon filters seems to be most clients choice when I explain these things, for drinking water. Often with a 3-in-1 kitchen sink tap, but defo wouldn’t advise on a 50/50 setup ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Good points. Lots of lime ruins taps etc. What sort of cost is the setup? And running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Laslett Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I have been using the Harvey twin tank water softener since 2001. No problems with pressure loss or noise. Suitable for a family of 4 and supporting 3 simultaneous showers with max flow rate of 56L/min . I have installed one in the new build which I bought from NE Water Softeners. https://newatersofteners.co.uk/collections/harvey-water-softener-range/products/harvey-twintec-s4?variant=44088604033260 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 12 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Why have half a tap saved from hard water crud and early demise, and not all outlets? Filtered water taps from hard water via de-chlorinating / carbon filters seems to be most clients choice when I explain these things, for drinking water. Often with a 3-in-1 kitchen sink tap, but defo wouldn’t advise on a 50/50 setup ?! We were advised drinking filtered water wasn't great! Also not a fan of the taste tbh. We have filter water at both kitchen and utility taps if we were swap over to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G and J Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Having had a water softener for a couple of decades I’m sold on all the internal taps, showers and cisterns being fed with softened water. It’s nicer to wash in and it reduces vastly maintenance. The exception is the kitchen tap as I’ve always felt it safer to drink and cook with unadulterated water. We had a go with filters (jug based) and they reduced the scum on tea but I wasn’t happy with the faff and the volume of plastic waste so they were ditched. I can’t see that a filter will reduce hardness, so do people have them because the taste is discernibly better? Or is it a bit of marketing hype that makes peeps feel like it’s better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 2 hours ago, Andehh said: We were advised drinking filtered water wasn't great! Also not a fan of the taste tbh. We have filter water at both kitchen and utility taps if we were swap over to them! Every single drinking tap ’kit’ I’ve ever fitted has had a cartridge filter. Consensus seems to be not to drink or excessively consume softened water, specifically. Every fridge with a drinking water outlet or ice maker has one for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G and J Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 14 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Every single drinking tap ’kit’ I’ve ever fitted has had a cartridge filter. Consensus seems to be not to drink or excessively consume softened water, specifically. Every fridge with a drinking water outlet or ice maker has one for example. OK. I guess I’m a Luddite. What does the filter remove? Should I feel somehow like I’m missing out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 3 hours ago, G and J said: OK. I guess I’m a Luddite. What does the filter remove? Should I feel somehow like I’m missing out? Oh, you've simply not lived...lol Mostly chlorine and other such things, but there are many threads on here so search away and reap the rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 4 hours ago, G and J said: I can’t see that a filter will reduce hardness It won't in practicality, hence why most plumbing installs for new houses that I do (where this matters) have :- hard water > softener > all non-consumption outlets, plus then :- hard water > water conditioner 'cartridge' filter > faucet/fridge/Quooker tap for human consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshy Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 My parents have a BWT, seems to do the job well. https://www.bwtshop.co.uk/product-category/luxury-water-products/water-softeners/ I'm about to pull the trigger on a BWT Perla 20L Using BWT16 discount code, it comes in considerably cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanmenie Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Have a look at Tapworks softeners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G and J Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 hours ago, freshy said: My parents have a BWT, seems to do the job well. https://www.bwtshop.co.uk/product-category/luxury-water-products/water-softeners/ I'm about to pull the trigger on a BWT Perla 20L Using BWT16 discount code, it comes in considerably cheaper. Would be interested to understand why this model? They also do Wi-Fi water softeners I have just seen - is that so they can message you when salt is needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 I just use this Does what it needs to, mine just installed in the cold water line to cylinder. Was originally on the combi boiler. https://www.bwt.com/en-gb/products/protection-for-heating-systems/combi-care/15-mm-combi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshy Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 23 hours ago, G and J said: Would be interested to understand why this model? They also do Wi-Fi water softeners I have just seen - is that so they can message you when salt is needed? Just familiar with the brand, that's all. The wifi option is very appealing as my parents never check the salt levels and it's usually empty before it starts beeping. I used the WIFI20 code and the wifi version was cheaper than the regular one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 Have to admit, I love my WiFi devices but the water softener is the last one I'd see the benefit of being wifi enabled. Once a month empty a bag of salt into it... Very easy to visually check it once a month... Regular usage etc... Not sure wifi offers anything my self! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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