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Looking for recommendations on a quality water softener. 
things it must have. 
Hi- flow

ability to time the re -gen cycles 

I don’t want it kicking in randomly when I’m in the shower and stealing my water. 
quality more important than cheap n cheerful. 
 

what we saying people. 

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1 hour ago, saveasteading said:

It's just an inline filter isn't it?

No they do a sort of re jig, blast themselves out, it can be noisy and can also deplete water pressure im told. 
im not worried about noise, so I want to be able to alter the time it does it. 

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1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said:

im not worried about noise, so I want to be able to alter the time it does it. 

The twin cylinder softeners like Harvey, etc regenerate when required by switching over to the other cylinder. I had different models in the different houses I lived in, in the SE. They were all ok. Fortunately moving to Cornwall means I don't need one any longer.

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Plumb toilets, kitchen and utility sink, and outside taps off unfiltered. Showers and taps off filtered.

 

Filtered tap in garage (washing the car)

 

 

Filter all hot

 

Works like a Charm, we have a high flow Monach jobbie, works well no impact on water pressure or flow.

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2 hours ago, Andehh said:

Plumb toilets, kitchen and utility sink, and outside taps off unfiltered. Showers and taps off filtered.

 

Filtered tap in garage (washing the car)

 

Why have half a tap saved from hard water crud and early demise, and not all outlets?

Filtered water taps from hard water via de-chlorinating / carbon filters seems to be most clients choice when I explain these things, for drinking water. Often with a 3-in-1 kitchen sink tap, but defo wouldn’t advise on a 50/50 setup ?!

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I have been using the Harvey twin tank water softener since 2001. No problems with pressure loss or noise. Suitable for a family of 4 and supporting 3 simultaneous showers with max flow rate of 56L/min . I have installed one in the new build which I bought from NE Water Softeners.

 

https://newatersofteners.co.uk/collections/harvey-water-softener-range/products/harvey-twintec-s4?variant=44088604033260

 

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12 hours ago, Nickfromwales said:

Why have half a tap saved from hard water crud and early demise, and not all outlets?

Filtered water taps from hard water via de-chlorinating / carbon filters seems to be most clients choice when I explain these things, for drinking water. Often with a 3-in-1 kitchen sink tap, but defo wouldn’t advise on a 50/50 setup ?!

 

We were advised drinking filtered water wasn't great! Also not a fan of the taste tbh.

 

We have filter water at both kitchen and utility taps if we were swap over to them!

 

 

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Having had a water softener for a couple of decades I’m sold on all the internal taps, showers and cisterns being fed with softened water.  It’s nicer to wash in and it reduces vastly maintenance.  
 

The exception is the kitchen tap as I’ve always felt it safer to drink and cook with unadulterated water.  
 

We had a go with filters (jug based) and they reduced the scum on tea but I wasn’t happy with the faff and the volume of plastic waste so they were ditched.  
 

I can’t see that a filter will reduce hardness, so do people have them because the taste is discernibly better?  Or is it a bit of marketing hype that makes peeps feel like it’s better?

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2 hours ago, Andehh said:

 

We were advised drinking filtered water wasn't great! Also not a fan of the taste tbh.

 

We have filter water at both kitchen and utility taps if we were swap over to them!

 

 

Every single drinking tap ’kit’ I’ve ever fitted has had a cartridge filter. 
Consensus seems to be not to drink or excessively consume softened water, specifically. 
Every fridge with a drinking water outlet or ice maker has one for example.

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14 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

Every single drinking tap ’kit’ I’ve ever fitted has had a cartridge filter. 
Consensus seems to be not to drink or excessively consume softened water, specifically. 
Every fridge with a drinking water outlet or ice maker has one for example.

OK.  I guess I’m a Luddite.  
 

What does the filter remove?  Should I feel somehow like I’m missing out?

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3 hours ago, G and J said:

OK.  I guess I’m a Luddite.  
 

What does the filter remove?  Should I feel somehow like I’m missing out?

Oh, you've simply not lived...lol :D 

Mostly chlorine and other such things, but there are many threads on here so search away and reap the rewards.

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4 hours ago, G and J said:

I can’t see that a filter will reduce hardness

It won't in practicality, hence why most plumbing installs for new houses that I do (where this matters) have :- hard water > softener > all non-consumption outlets, plus then :- hard water > water conditioner 'cartridge' filter > faucet/fridge/Quooker tap for human consumption.

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2 hours ago, freshy said:

My parents have a BWT, seems to do the job well.

 

https://www.bwtshop.co.uk/product-category/luxury-water-products/water-softeners/

 

I'm about to pull the trigger on a BWT Perla 20L

 

Using BWT16 discount code, it comes in considerably cheaper.

Would be interested to understand why this model?  They also do Wi-Fi water softeners I have just seen - is that so they can message you when salt is needed?

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23 hours ago, G and J said:

Would be interested to understand why this model?  They also do Wi-Fi water softeners I have just seen - is that so they can message you when salt is needed?

Just familiar with the brand, that's all. The wifi option is very appealing as my parents never check the salt levels and it's usually empty before it starts beeping. I used the WIFI20 code and the wifi version was cheaper than the regular one.

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Have to admit, I love my WiFi devices but the water softener is the last one I'd see the benefit of being wifi enabled. Once a month empty a bag of salt into it... Very easy to visually check it once a month... Regular usage etc... Not sure wifi offers anything my self!

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